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Author Topic: Allan Scott 'Deacons' Dahlia paperweight?  (Read 8182 times)

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Offline Leni

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Allan Scott 'Deacons' Dahlia paperweight?
« on: March 08, 2005, 02:04:20 PM »
Hi Frank (& Kevin),

Having stated catagorically in another thread that I had just acquired a Dahlia paperweight identical to the one shown on your page about Allan Scott, Frank, I thought I had better check if in fact I am right!   :oops:  

The thing which made me make my first enthusiastic identification was the picture, which seems indeed to be indentical.  However, there is no identifying J cane of any sort in my weight.  Did all 'J' (or 'Jay') Glass weights have canes with J or A or both?  

To help, I have taken a couple of pics of the weight.  I was going to email them to Allan Scott via his website, but he seems to have removed the email link.  

http://tinypic.com/21wk0z  http://tinypic.com/21wk20

Please can you tell me if you think mine really is a genuine Allan Scott Deacons Dahlia?  Thanks  :?

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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2005, 02:49:28 PM »
Whoever the maker pretty damn tasty for the price you "nicked" it at.

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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2005, 03:27:00 PM »
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Whoever the maker pretty damn tasty for the price you "nicked" it at.

I thought so too!   :twisted:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2005, 08:54:41 PM »
Leni,

The weight is certainly a "match" to the one in Frank's pages, listed as "Jay" glass 1982. As the photos are copyrighted to Allan Scott, I take it that the info about it being a "Jay" weight would be ok.

But ... as far as I am aware all "Jay" weights had a "J" cane!

Although the end of John Deacons' "Jay" Glass period was early 83, the only lists of J weights I have seen (in John Simmonds book Paperweights From Great Britain 1930-2000) ends at 1981, so info on the Dahlia weight is not given.

Looks like conact with Allan Scott, one way or another, (or maybe John Deacons) will be the only way to find out anout this unsigned "Jay" weight
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2005, 08:56:46 PM »
I have asked Allan to visit this thread when gets a chance.

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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2005, 10:47:37 PM »
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I have asked Allan to visit this thread when gets a chance.

Gosh!  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

Thanks, Frank!   :shock:  :oops:   :D :roll:

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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2005, 01:06:49 PM »
Hi Leni,
            I have a great problem with getting my E.mails just now as I am only on dial-up at the moment untill broadband arrives in my village.My own website is not up & running yet.I got an e.mail from Frank Andrews about the Dahlia and I can confirm that it is a J.Glass P/weight.I have to admit that I cant remember if these weights had a signature cane in as the flowers were made in one piece and had to be laid down immediately from the time I finished the last leaf on to a hot plate so John Deacons could pick it up with the hot gather of glass as soon as my hand was out of the way.This was to prevent the flower from cracking.It would of been hard to get a cane into the design with this method but my mother still has one of the dahlia weights so I will check it out and post another reply here for you.If you need to contact me for anything else ,E.mail me on allan.scott2@tesco.net  ,but like I said I do have a problem with the E.mails just now,especially sending them so do not worry if I am slow to reply.I am always happy to help collectors and anybody interested in paperweights.
                     Allan :lol:

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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2005, 01:30:49 PM »
Gosh!  :shock:  Wow!  :shock:  Thanks so much Allan!  

I'm honoured and delighted to own the weight.  It's really beautiful!   :D

Leni (who really can't believe her luck!  :roll: )
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2005, 04:36:34 PM »
Hi Leni,
                Thanks for the e.mail,I still cannot e.mail out though.I went to visit my mother only to realise that the Dahlia weight was actually mine and I had forgotten to unpack it from when I moved house,so it has been in my attic for  5 years..oops!.Anyway,my one has a blue "J" cane inserted in the middle of a concave ground base,I have had another look at your pictures and I cannot see enough detail of the base to se how yours is finished.If you could send a couple of different angled images and a description of the base to the e.mail adress I sent you I will try to solve the mystery.If nothing else,after looking at the pictures again,I can confirm that it is my lampwork and it is a J-Glass weight.In fact,I can tell you that there are not many of this design out there,I am sure we did not finish making all of the edition of 101.This is the first one of this design that I have heard of coming back on the market since we made them and it remains to this day my favourite J.Glass weight that I made,despite the problems it gave us to make. 8)
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2005, 01:30:06 PM »
Quote from: "Allan scott"
my one has a blue "J" cane inserted in the middle of a concave ground base,I have had another look at your pictures and I cannot see enough detail of the base to se how yours is finished

Actually, mine seems rather 'un' finished!  :oops:

I'll send you the pics as requested to show what I mean.  There is a rather sharp, 'raw-looking' pontil mark which does not seem to have been ground down at all and as a result the weight doesn't quite stand flat.

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I can confirm that it is my lampwork and it is a J-Glass weight.In fact,I can tell you that there are not many of this design out there,I am sure we did not finish making all of the edition of 101.This is the first one of this design that I have heard of coming back on the market since we made them and it remains to this day my favourite J.Glass weight that I made,despite the problems it gave us to make. 8)
                                           Allan


I am so pleased to hear that!  I do love it and think myself very lucky to have it.   :D  

Will be emailing pics to you Allan, and many thanks again for your help.

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