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Offline Jay

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Help with a carnival compote...
« on: March 06, 2007, 07:18:59 PM »
I couldn't resist picking this up last week, but all my searching through the carni books has yielded no result.

(I love David Doty's site but I've no idea how to describe this pattern in terms that he uses).
'Chrysanthemums and art deco arches'?

http://www.hogelandshoeve.nl/index66.html

It is clearly less heavily-made and less lustred than recent Walther examples we have seen.

Does anyone recognise it?
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Re: Help with a carnival compote...
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2007, 11:02:54 AM »
Have tou tried Glen's site www.carnival-glass.net


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Re: Help with a carnival compote...
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2007, 12:07:41 PM »
I think it might be crabclaw or something very like it... could you post a pic of the side so I can see all of the design?  thanks!



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Re: Help with a carnival compote...
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2007, 01:00:01 PM »
I feel this is Leerdam - No. 1321.

Not yet reported in Carnival Glass, so this is a "first known". Perhaps you would like to name it for the carnival collectors, Jay? If you wish, I will report it on my website, unless you prefer to "go elsewhere".

(Apologies for my slow response - family difficulties, plus daughter in car crash / broken wrist etc).

EDITED TO ADD (I really am very distracted at the moment - sorry): apologies for saying first known. It is known in the creamer. "Dutch Star" .. I think I named it actually, when I was writing "A Century of Carnival Glass". The pattern information and the Leerdam catalogue illustration of the creamer is all shown in my second book.
Just released—Carnival from Finland & Norway e-book!
Also, Riihimäki e-book and Carnival from Sweden e-book.
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Re: Help with a carnival compote...
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2007, 01:10:33 PM »
Oh Glen, sorry to hear about your daughter, is the broken wrist hers, or yours?

Hope all gets sorted for you soon,

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Re: Help with a carnival compote...
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2007, 01:15:09 PM »
The broken wrist is my poor, dear daughter's. Plus severe whiplash and all the usual problems. A bit stressful all round for a number of reasons right now, hence I don't have as much time to work on glass, nor is my brain fully operational!
Just released—Carnival from Finland & Norway e-book!
Also, Riihimäki e-book and Carnival from Sweden e-book.
Sowerby e-books—three volumes available
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Re: Help with a carnival compote...
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2007, 01:21:21 PM »
Sorry to hear about your problems, Glen.

Wow! I would have my bet 'my little cotton socks' that you would give another answer! I'm amazed!
I never had any inkling about such a beast as 'Dutch Carnival'.
I've posted a clearer image which will enable a closer look!

Naturally you are welcome to make the announcement, use pics, etc, if you think it IS worth while! :)

I'm bound to wonder how this sneaked up on me....how come I didn't know about this...which book did I miss....and in short (being blunt)...how do you know, Glen? Even the pattern number?! I'm dumbfounded!

I bow to your expertise and humbly hope to increase my own!
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Re: Help with a carnival compote...
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2007, 01:34:11 PM »
 :hug: for Glen and family.

Congrats to Jay and Han on a new carnival compote  ;D

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Re: Help with a carnival compote...
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2007, 01:46:07 PM »
Thanks Christine, we feel like unexpected fathers ;-)
30 years of watching Antiques Roadshow and Lovejoy has finally yielded a dividend?

We are building a new cabinet for our baby, as we look for a picture of a stork carrying a compote!!
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Re: Help with a carnival compote...
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2007, 01:52:57 PM »
Hi Jay - I suppose the answer to your question "how do I know" is that I have been researching Carnival Glass for the past 20 plus years - and I have been especially interested in working on European Carnival makers for the last 15 years. I've travelled Europe, visited museums and libraries, flea markets, glassworks and so on and so on. I've got catalogues for all the main Carnival producers. I find European Carnival especially tantalizing and utterly compulsive. I love to research and I love to find out about previously unknown glass and unknown factories. Solving mysteries is challenging but exceptionally satisfying.

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which book did I miss?
You missed my second book on Carnival Glass. "A Century of Carnival Glass". It covers all the European makers (except Poland - as I only discovered that about 6 months ago), plus India and South America. Plus all the Contemporary Carnival makers in the USA.
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/book2.html

I know the pattern number because I have several Leerdam catalogues in front of me. The catalogue illustration of the cream jug in this pattern is illustrated in "Century".

Leerdam did not make a large amount of Carnival - mainly cream jugs and sugars, and they are usually very attractive pieces. The iridescence isn't always very vibrant, which is exactly what you described.

I'd love to put your "find" and your photos/etc on my website. I'll fully credit and acknowledge you, of course. Your comport (stemmed sugar) is a very pretty item - and I add my voice to the CONGRATULATIONS  :). It will be very good to showcase Leerdam for a change  :)

Thanks for your good wishes, I appreciate it a lot. Thanks too, to Lynne and Christine.
Just released—Carnival from Finland & Norway e-book!
Also, Riihimäki e-book and Carnival from Sweden e-book.
Sowerby e-books—three volumes available
For all info see www.thistlewoods.net
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