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Author Topic: Could this be early Powell, Whitefriars?  (Read 3100 times)

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Offline Max

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Could this be early Powell, Whitefriars?
« on: March 17, 2005, 04:46:04 PM »
I found this in the Cancer Research shop today.  It was terribly dirty, but it's cleaned up perfectly.  It's an interesting green colour and has vertical optic ribbing.  You can see the raspberry prunts and coiled snake-like strap to the neck.  Measures 5.5" high, there's a lot of age related wear to base, which has no pontil mark.  There's a teeny chip to one edge, otherwise perfect.
 
I know I shouldn't really keep putting things on here, but I'm a bit excited about this one!  I have looked in my Whitefriars book, but my book is quite generalised and misses a lot out.  
 
Here it is, just washed and still wet: http://tinypic.com/2965fp
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Re: Could this be early Powell, Whitefriars?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2005, 04:51:16 PM »
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I found this in the Cancer Research shop today.  

Oooh! You lucky girl!   :shock:
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I know I shouldn't really keep putting things on here,

Whyever not?  :?   I thought it was what this board was for?  :roll:

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Could this be early Powell, Whitefriars?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2005, 04:56:31 PM »
yep a very good find, Harry Powell i think 1930's
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2005, 12:02:17 AM »
Thanks Leni &  Ray.   :D

I've popped this piece over onto whitefriars.com to see what they say...I'm hoping it's a bit earlier than 1930's - not that I know a great deal about Whitefriars, I have to add!  It just feels....old....like me.   :lol:
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Could this be early powell,whitefriars?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2005, 12:47:43 AM »
Hello Max,

Sorry to disappoint, but I don't believe this to be Powell or Whitefriars. There are too many factors that suggest other manufacturers could have made it. Other than the general style there is little that suggests Powell.

Don't forget that this type of item is synonymous with a period rather than one company. Furthermore that period relies on historic pieces for its inspiration.

Factors like the milled trail and the raspberry prunts were used by various manufacturers and in a number of countries between around 1880 and the beginning of the First World War. In my opinion the ones on this vase are not consistent with Powell.

Unfortunately, there are also a number of manufacturers on the Continent who have reproduced pieces like this in recent years.

You don't tell us about the pontil, although I don't feel it critical to my opinion it may help point to the right direction. Is it broken or polished? If polished in what way? Regular/irregular, central, etc.?

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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2005, 08:29:46 AM »
Hello Nigel  :D

Thanks for your considered reply, I can feel my little balloon deflating!  lol!

Actually...I was starting to wonder about this vase myself.  I think it's been blown into a mould, so there's no pontil mark to the base, but a lot of age wear.  I don't know....there's just something about it that makes me think you're right about it being of the same age, but not Whitefriars.  Maybe it's just that certain missing quality?  

I've popped it onto whitefriars.com, so it'll be interesting to see what they say there.  I put a note here when if I find out anything.

Oh, PS:  Nigel, I've got your little book with the green cover, and it's been very useful - thanks!    :D
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2005, 08:40:26 PM »
Well, Steve Leslie over at our friends www.whitefriars.com also thought this item wasn't Whitefriars.  Thank you to him for his valuable input.

Obviously I'm a little upset that it isn't what I thought it was - but that's the game, isn't it?  Blimey.  I sound like a gambler or something!  :shock:

Love to all, thanks to peeps for their time.   :D
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2005, 11:25:24 AM »
It could turn out to be something better than Whitefrairs despite that company producing "arguably the best quality glass ever created in Britain." according to www.whitefriars.com

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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2005, 12:48:47 PM »
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 :?: Would it be too much to ask what you mean by that, do you have a suggestion?   :?

Edit:  Just worked out, PDA was probably jesting.  Tut!
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2005, 03:38:02 PM »
No, sorry.
Just that Whitefriars isn't the be all and end all.
Thats all.

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