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Offline Tigerchips

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Printed 20/50 dollers tumbler
« on: April 01, 2007, 12:17:56 AM »
Something tells me it ain't worth as much as what's on it.  ;D ;D ;D
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture_48543.jpg

On one of the coins it says: Panama Pacific Exposition San Francisco.

Perhaps that's just what's on the coin rather than it having anything to do with this tumbler?

Anyway, do you know who made it please?

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Re: Printed 20/50 dollers tumbler
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2007, 09:55:25 AM »
The fair was in 1915 and you might find the value is higher than you'd expect. But ID'ing the maker is beyond me!

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Re: Printed 20/50 dollers tumbler
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2007, 10:38:20 AM »
Difficult to say from a photo, but it does look a lot newer than 1915. Could it be a 50th anniversary, or similar?

Does anyone know when gilt was first silk-screened (which I assume this is how it's done)? I've always thought about mid-1930s, but could be mistaken.
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Re: Printed 20/50 dollers tumbler
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2007, 11:12:34 AM »
All the gilt patterns I've seen on the Sherdley/ Ravenhead glasses seem to be Ravenhead rather than Sherdley - ie 1964 or later. But that could just be when Ravenhead acquired the right machinery, or decided that was what the punter would go for.
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Re: Printed 20/50 dollers tumbler
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2007, 11:41:46 AM »
I see no reason for this not to be transfer printed nor, for it to date from 1915. Bigger pictures are needed including close-ups covering the edges of the print, top sides and bottom.

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Re: Printed 20/50 dollers tumbler
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2007, 03:49:51 PM »
You may be right Frank: it just appears more recent than 1915.

Gilt was applied to Chance items from 1950, but this was hand applied using a brush. The earliest Chance item with gilt applied was 1960 (Golden Lagoon), but none of the Royal crests used gilt for the 1953 Coronation.

I do have a Johnson Matthey advert somewhere advertising gilt, but haven't tracked it down so far. Not conclusive as it may have been developed much earlier.
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Re: Printed 20/50 dollers tumbler
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2007, 06:42:20 PM »
One has some Roman numerals: MCMXV.

=1915

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Re: Printed 20/50 dollers tumbler
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2007, 06:49:24 PM »
It looks like multiple transfers 3 or 4 at a guess. I guess it was better quality souvenir ware for the exposition. Nice.

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Re: Printed 20/50 dollers tumbler
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2007, 07:19:50 PM »
The glass does not look to be from 1915 to me.  It looks more like 1950s-60s.

I believe the glass(es) was made to commemorate the famous set of coins issued at the 1915 Panama Pacific Expo

http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.asp?IDArticle=356

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