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Can anyone out there help us to identify a piece of glass we have just purchased a lamp base.

The base is dark green shading to lilac in a lattice work effect with silver foil inclusions and applied amber decoration.

Suggestions so far have been Murano or Nazeing but we have never seen anything like it.

Picture available if someone can help.

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Re: Lamp Base in Lilac and Green Lattice with applied amber
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2004, 07:57:59 PM »
Quote from: "Tubitha"
Can anyone out there help us to identify a piece of glass we have just purchased a lamp base.

The base is dark green shading to lilac in a lattice work effect with silver foil inclusions and applied amber decoration.

Suggestions so far have been Murano or Nazeing but we have never seen anything like it.

Picture available if someone can help.

Tubitha


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http://www.scotglass.com/Features.asp


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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2004, 08:30:15 PM »
First came across these in the eighties and they were usually offered as Monart which is clearly wrong.

I ashow a lamp and a vase in this glass at http://www.ysartglass.com/NotYsart.htm

For a long time the assumption was Bohemian but a couple of years ago I was told that an American company "Union Glass Company" so far their has been no further corroboration. There does not seem to be that many designs.

Christies, South Kensington, are selling a vase in their auction on 11 May, listed as Monart in Lot 6.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2004, 04:54:07 PM »
Thanks for the information.

I have tried to research the Union Glass Co. but with little success and can only find references to Kew Blas glass and Quezal associated with this company and this vase is clearly neither.

Not sure where to go from here.  I looked at the piece marked Monart in the Christies sale and I have to agree it looks rather similar!

Any further informatin would be welcome.

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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2004, 08:06:04 AM »
Hi Frank

I have been in touch through the internet with a company in Italy who deal in antique Murano and modern Murano glass.  They are convinced that this is Murano but the question for them was is it old or modern.

If 1935-40 the makers could be Barovier & Toso, or Fratelli Toso, or Seguso Vetri d'Arte and if a modern copy they could not be sure who would have made it.  

I asked the dealers who sold it to me about it and it turns out that they had replaced the fitting on the lampbase as it was a bit shabby and taken off the chrome on the neck of the base to match the new brass fitting and rewired it to comply with todays standards.

It looks like it is 1935-40 as I can see a bit of chrome on the neck where they didn't want to go too close to the glass.

Anyway thought it might be useful for you to know my findings.

Carol

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2004, 09:34:07 AM »
Aaarrgghhh, why do people do things like that! At least keep the original bits with the lamp. With a little effort and imagination it is possible to replace fittings with appropriate appearance items. I used to do this when I dealt in early electric lighting. It is usually possible to convert pre 1940 brass fittings to meet legal requirements.

I have had these lamp bases in the past and 1930's-50's is definitely the right period. Ditto with the wear on the vases.
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2004, 10:01:36 AM »
Exactly anyway they still have the original chrome fitting so I have asked them to give it to me the next time we meet.

Shame though as you say why do people do these things! Lack of understanding of what collectors value I think, they just wanted to make it look better to sell it.

Not sure how I might go about having it restored to it's original condition but I can see if it 's possible when I get the fittings. Not knowing anything about electrical wiring I would really need to get someone in Scotland to do it for me.  

Carol

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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2005, 08:21:56 PM »
Tubitha
Any developments ?
Do you still habve a pic ?

Frank
Your link is no longer working
Is this the lamp you refer to ?
http://www.ysartglass.com/Otherglass/Images/AmericanUnion.jpg
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http://www.ysartglass.com/Ysart/NotYsart.htm ?
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2005, 08:33:39 PM »
Yes,url corrected.

These still turn up regularly, lampbases and vases.
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2005, 11:50:33 AM »
I have really got no further with the lampbase in question and in fact now have 2 which may well be from the same maker. They are different but seem to have some similar characteristics.

I will attempt to post pictures of both for you once I have taken them neither are exactly the same as the one which Frank has a picture of but both are lovely when lit up as lampbases.

Cheers Carol

 

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