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Offline josordoni

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Hospodka or (My Guess) Murano
« on: April 05, 2007, 03:18:04 PM »
On page 60 of Andy McD's 20th century glass, he shows a bowl rather similar in shape to this one I have, in the use of the little curved side lugs, but says these Hospodka bowls are heavily copied.

Mine has aventurine splodges to the middle - am I right in thinking that Czech glass doesn't tend to use aventurine in this way?  And that I am correct in my assumption that, in this case, this IS Murano?

side
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6257
base
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6256
top
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6255

Thanks for any hints.


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Re: Hospodka or (My Guess) Murano
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2007, 03:42:19 PM »
Difficult to say with certainty, but aventurine would be unusual in the production from the Chribska works.
Mind having said that I am never surprised either, as all Harrtil allegedly came from Harrachov, but Smrckova designs using the technique were made at Chribska.
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Re: Hospodka or (My Guess) Murano
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2007, 03:46:15 PM »
Thanks Marcus, do you consider that the shape and base are consistent with Hospodka? I know nothing about this factory, and am only going from the one picture seen in Andy McD's book.





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Re: Hospodka or (My Guess) Murano
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2007, 04:22:13 PM »
Lynne,
see attached link:
http://www.c-box.cz/sklarna-chribska/data/index.html
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Marcus


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Re: Hospodka or (My Guess) Murano
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2007, 12:04:52 AM »


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Re: Hospodka or (My Guess) Murano
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2007, 05:42:32 AM »
One of the problems is simple.
Early post-war off-hand production in Czechoslovakia, was heavily influenced either by Italy, or Scandinavia. If one looks at the 1954 Skrdlovice catalogue for example, there are pieces which, were it not for their images in that catalogue, would be difficult to place precisely. It is really only after 1955 or 56, when Emanuel Poche spear-headed the drive toward a more Czechoslovakian style, (for the most part because he was also in charge of the committee organising the country's Brussels Expo'58 submissions)that off-hand work became once more, identifiably Czechoslovakian. This was during the "de-Stalinisation" period, and as artistic production started to find itself less pressured into social realist conformity, so too design started to benefit from a less heavy-handed approach.There are a number of articles in CGR of the period, which discuss the problems faced by the Czechoslovakian glass industry, the need to keep producing items which satisfied customers in the more conservative markets, the need to develop new products that would be able to compete on their own merits, with the production of Scandinavian, and Italian manufacturers.

The images of current Chribska production show many pieces which have been in production for several decades. It still sells.

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Marcus



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Re: Hospodka or (My Guess) Murano
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2007, 07:34:19 AM »
So what makes this Hospodka

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6257


and this, Murano?  ??? ???

http://www.ysartglass.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-12


Carolyn  :)




They look the same to me..... ??? ???

Marcus, no question the shape is there in the Chribska catalogue, but I can't find anything there using these kinds of colours with the aventurine in the middle. 

So I am no wiser really.  I find French and Czech attributions the hardest ones of all.


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Re: Hospodka or (My Guess) Murano
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2007, 08:08:49 AM »
I would say Lynne's bowl is Murano, that shape is found in lots of colours with and without bubbles, with and without aventurine, with and without silver, with clear and opaque glass. All look far more Italian than Czech to me. Try it on the Murano board. Interesting how the shapes are common. We also had a similar discussion about a similar bowl belonging to WO that was probably Chalet


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Re: Hospodka or (My Guess) Murano
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2007, 08:17:40 AM »
Request to Moderators: May I cross post this to Murano please?


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Re: Hospodka or (My Guess) Murano
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2007, 12:18:00 AM »
We can move it over if you want Lynne? If it comes back as definitely not Murano we can always fetch it back. :)

 

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