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Offline glasseyed

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PAPERWEIGHT ID
« on: April 05, 2007, 08:24:19 PM »
Hi All

I bought this pretty weight at my local auction rooms, I was wondering if it could be Ysart. Any help would be appreciated.

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Hazel

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=179




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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2007, 10:06:20 PM »
You are a lucky girl, Hazel. Unrecognised Ysart weights don't often get found in auction rooms these days. I am assuming that you did not pay too much for it, as a high price would have been an indication of the likely attribution.

This is a very good Paul Ysart weight, possibly from the 1930s or might be late 1940s or even 1950s. If you can post a pic of the base and a full-on side view, it could help to define which period it is.

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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2007, 11:22:26 PM »
Thanks Kev

You're right, not catalogued  - it was in a lot of three weights. I thought when I viewed it was a top notch weight but I wasn't certain it was Ysart as I rarely get my hands on one. I have been on your excellent site and couldn't find anything quite like it (or anywhere else on the net). Anyway I am adding it to my small collection. I will try and post some more pictures, the base is flat ground and the glass has a slightly pink hue to it.

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Hazel


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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2007, 12:02:28 AM »
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... the glass has a slightly pink hue to it
Could that be what I might call "purple"? If it is a very feint tint, then yes, it could appear to be pink. A purple tint is known in many of the earlier weights.

I have a similar patterned weight in my pages - row 2, col 2 in this page.
And it even has two canes identical to those in yours - but my photo probably needs to be seen magnified to see the detail.
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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2007, 12:03:55 AM »
But I think yours is a better colour combo. Wanna swap? ;D
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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2007, 10:05:31 AM »
Here are the extra pictures, as you say purple is probably a better description of the tinge to the glass. It shows up better than I thought it would on the photographs.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6279
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6278

I think I'll pass on the swap this time :D


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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2007, 11:43:29 PM »
Thanks for showing the extra photos. As the base is smooth polished, it does not really help with the period because that can apply to any time.

Had there been a pontil scar, often the form of this can be good indicator of when the weight was made. I have found that when a PY weight has a pattern set in clear glass, rather than a coloured ground, then if the pontil scar would show through, the base would be ground and polished. But there are examples where this has not been done so, as with many of the clues, it's not foolproof.

Anyway, the purple tint to the glass does strongly suggest a 1930s date.
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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2007, 10:19:39 PM »
Thanks for the extra info. It's always good when you follow your nose and it leads you in the right direction. What sort of price would you expect to pay for this sort of weight at auction if properly catalogued? (I'd like to prove to my better half that I'm not as mad as he believes). ???

Your point about the base finish is most interesting, most of the Ysart weights I have seen have had a coloured ground beneath the canes so the pontil mark wouldn't affect the look of the weight.

Best wishes

Hazel



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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2007, 11:20:47 PM »
My comments on prices would add little to anyone's understanding of things.
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Re: PAPERWEIGHT ID
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2007, 04:13:33 PM »
A very lucky find.

 



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