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Author Topic: Who Were Leroc of Czecho-slovakia?  (Read 11240 times)

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Re: Who Were Leroc of Czecho-slovakia?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2009, 07:31:30 PM »
Just to bring images back into this topic, the pictures from the auction of these items are now in the Glass Trinket Set website with the written permission of the seller, Susan Raisin, to whom I'm thankful for their use: PAGE LINK, along with the information from Glen and Frank about these pieces. Thank you both.   8)
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Inwald / Leroc pieces - ID = Inwald "Kranich" (Crane)
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2013, 02:56:22 PM »
Here are two lovely candlesticks with deco feel, flying heron intaglio. Any ideas?

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Re: Inwald / Leroc pieces - ID = Inwald "Kranich" (Crane)
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2013, 08:16:21 PM »
Inwald, Adam. See the painted version by Leroc here:
http://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms3/czechoslovakian/inwald/leroc

and the unpainted version like yours here:
http://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms3/czechoslovakian/inwald/8820-crane

May I add your images to the GTS album please?
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Re: Inwald / Leroc pieces - ID = Inwald "Kranich" (Crane)
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2015, 09:41:13 PM »
An unpainted Leroc ring dish fully marked...

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Re: Candlesticks id needed
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2017, 06:31:39 PM »
Images of Inwald Leroc unpainted Ring Holder with Rd Number 750112?

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Re: Who Were Leroc of Czecho-slovakia?
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2017, 11:52:07 PM »
I've merged our topics re Inwald Kranich / Crane as one had lost its image, the other still has images and links. :)
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Re: Who Were Leroc of Czecho-slovakia?
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2017, 07:58:52 PM »
I hope to visit TNA at Kew in a couple of week's time, and will of course make a point of researching Registration 750112  -  hopefully we may learn some additional information, but not guaranteed of course.           
I'm surprised that in the intervening twelve years or thereabouts, none of those interested in the material related to this design thought that a visit to Kew was worthwhile - or at least that's my reading of the various posts -  and some of those involved originally appear to have ceased their contact with the GMB.               This Registration must be worthy of the Guinness Book of Records - the longest wait ever to see the original factory drawing. ;)
Might the absence of a visit to TNA be due to the fact that those folk all lived some considerable distance from Kew??

I dare say Barbara has now forgotten that she ever had her piece ;D

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Re: Who Were Leroc of Czecho-slovakia?
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2017, 01:23:58 AM »
Thanks Paul, like you I was surprised that we'd not looked this up previously, which is why I added it to the lookup list. I can't wait to see what you can find out about it. :)
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Re: Who Were Leroc of Czecho-slovakia?
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2017, 03:03:12 PM »
A little surprising perhaps that bearing in mind this design is known to have been made by Inwald, that no one took a gamble and suggested Clayton Mayers - to whom this British Board of Trade Registration was allocated in 1929  -  something like five years before its appearance in the 1934 catalogue, that Glen mentions           Wonder if it did appear in an earlier catalogue?
Frank appears not to have substantiated his comment that this Registration did not appear in CLASS IV - which you will see was in fact the case.
Knowing less than nothing about trinket sets, it surprised me to see a 'comb tray'  -  have I been asleep and they are common accoutrements with these sets, or is the inclusion of said tray rare?                   Despite its artistic appeal to C21 glass collectors, it's apparent that Registered protection for this design wasn't extended, perhaps mid 1930s problems at the factory were more to blame than a lack of a U.K. market - who knows.

We've had shed loads of chit chat on C.M. over the years, as can be seen by using the Board's search facility, and I don't intend to repeat those words, other than to offer the following extract from an interesting and much earlier GMB discussion, posted originally by Glen Thistlewood - "  ....Clayton Mayers were agents, wholesalers and distributors. They were experts in publicity and advertising and mounted some amazing campaigns in the UK to promote the extensive and hugely successful Jacobean range. They also acted on behalf of Inwald to register some of their designs."

The full quote of which may be seen here  ...............  https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,8033.msg67955.html#msg67955

sorry the pix aren't overly good, think the Kew images are original b. & w. pix simply pasted into the Representations book.

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Re: Who Were Leroc of Czecho-slovakia?
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2017, 01:28:02 AM »
Paul, thank you it's super to see this registration, especially as Rd number 750112 wasn't on Great Glass or in the Blue Book, so we were a bit in the dark, but you are correct in that we should have suspected Clayton Meyers, and it's good to have that confirmation now.

As to comb tray, I guess it comes from the big trays we see on many sets being used to accommodate a hair brush, comb, clothes brush set  - I recall having a set like that when I was a girl and my mother and my grannie had one too. Some of the continental sets don't have the big tray but have a narrower tray which is often referred to as a comb tray (as a comb would fit into it). 

It's interesting that the Registration only shows 6 pieces, as there were various other bits in the Crane / Kranich pattern too:

Tray, pattern #8820, size 285 mm x 235 mm
Large lidded pot, pattern #8821
Small lidded pot, pattern #8822, size 80 mm diameter
Candlestick, pattern #8824, size 150 mm high
Ring holder, pattern #8825, size 95 mm diameter
Pin tray, pattern #8823, size 108 mm x 70 mm x 20 mm deep
Soap tray, pattern #9929 #9959
Pot, pattern #9927
Atomiser, pattern #9928
Perfume bottle, pattern #9930
Comb tray or jardinière, pattern #9931 #9960, size H 6.5 cm, B 8.5 cm, L 22.5 cm

What your lookup does confirm though, is that the RD no relates to the Inwald original design and not just to the Leroc added enamel decoration, and that is good to be able to pin down, so thank you again.
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