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Author Topic: ID American Opalescent Lidded Jug  (Read 787 times)

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Offline mhgcgolfclub

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ID American Opalescent Lidded Jug
« on: April 24, 2007, 07:27:54 PM »
I bought this small opalescent jug this morning almost certainly American, has a metal lid which has a strong hinged spring, not sure what it would have been used for , marked on the metal hinge PAT AUG, 26-81 MAR ,28-82,  height 7" any help on this piece please
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http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6648
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thanks Roy

 

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Re: ID American Opalescent Lidded Jug
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2007, 12:40:21 AM »
Hello Roy:

You have a very nice molasses can as the manufacturer would have called or a syrup pitcher as collectors today call it.  The pattern is Opalescent Stripe and the shape is called Ring Neck.  We don't know who made this shape; several companies such as Hobbs, Northwood, Buckeye have been suggested but there is no proof as of yet.

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Re: ID American Opalescent Lidded Jug
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2007, 04:17:35 AM »
Thanks Sid for the information, I could tell its was American but that was about it and date was about 1881, its not a very common item to find in the UK, I was at a loss to describe item all I was coming up with was sugar shaker

thanks again for being so helpful

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Re: ID American Opalescent Lidded Jug
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2007, 08:14:36 AM »
Roy — There is an apparently identical jug in ruby (cranberry) opalescent, same handle, lid, shape mould with the base and neck rings, 24? rib dip-mould, in

Heacock & Gamble Book 9 Cranberry Opalescent, p.87 No. 89 "RING NECK STRIPE".

No specific attribution here in line with Sid's information — "Northwood, Buckeye, Beaumont, Jefferson, Nickel, others."   Suggested date range here 1886–1904.   This item is described as rare.

Heacock Book II Opalescent 2nd edn. p.58 suggests that this lid may not be Hobbs, at least if Hobbs stuck to just one pattern of lid (rather clutching at straws here).

Both books give the strong impression that fairly simple utilitarian metal fittings like your lid were bought in and fitted by the glassworks.   Only in the case of very ornamental metalwork does Heacock suggest that the glass was supplied to the metalbashers, who then sold the finished article into the trade.

Note that these books were published in 1987 and 1977, so much new information will have emerged since then.

Bernard C.  8)
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Re: ID American Opalescent Lidded Jug
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2007, 02:10:07 PM »
Thanks Bernard

Very useful information, I have had a count and there are 24 stripes, hope you do not mind if I use the information you have provided which I will credit to you

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Re: ID American Opalescent Lidded Jug
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2007, 02:59:21 PM »
Quote from: Bernard C
... Note that these books were published in 1987 and 1977, so much new information will have emerged since then. ...

Roy — My sources are twenty and thirty years out of date and therefore should really be checked.   I strongly recommend that you query this on the eBay.com (USA) glass discussion board.   I know that several authorities on this type of glass monitor queries that arise there — you never know what information they might be able to add, or, more importantly, correct.

If you are unsure how to do this, please let me know and I will either do it for you or hand-hold you through it.

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Re: ID American Opalescent Lidded Jug
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2007, 06:21:40 PM »
Thanks Bernard its ok you have been more than helpful already, I already have the item selling and happy for people to make up there own minds , very kind of you to offer, I only paid £10.00 a little bargin I think

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