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Author Topic: Oih!! Whats this then?? Royal Crown Derby  (Read 3532 times)

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Offline karelm

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Oih!! Whats this then?? Royal Crown Derby
« on: May 20, 2007, 02:05:29 PM »
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I dont know anything about Royal Crown Derby but are these what is used to denote that it is a sellable weight? Hoe are they normally applied? 
...am I right in thinking that between these and the engraving kit discussed in the cafe my chinese weights have the potential to gain a lot of value ;D ;D >:D
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Re: Oih!! Whats this then?? Royal Crown Derby
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2007, 02:26:36 PM »

Hi Karel,
These stoppers/studs are from porcelain weights like this one
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Re: Oih!! Whats this then?? Royal Crown Derby
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2007, 02:59:06 PM »
Thanks Della,
OK so these are used on porcelain not weights...or at least not the type of weights I look at...and those chinese weights are still in the cupboard ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Oih!! Whats this then?? Royal Crown Derby
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2007, 03:01:35 PM »
The point about these gold stoppers is that Royal Crown Derby don't mark their factory second paperweights other than by putting in a silver stopper rather than a gold one.

So there is a thriving market in gold stoppers, as if you buy a silver stoppered paperweight, or one without a stopper,  and put in your new gold stopper you can increase the value of your paperweight dramatically.

Same thing happens for Wade pigs.

you could TRY them with your Chinese weights.... certainly can't hurt!!

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Re: Oih!! Whats this then?? Royal Crown Derby
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2007, 03:15:39 PM »
Ok...so these then mean that you could make a "second" a "first"?
So where do they come from?
The point about these gold stoppers is that Royal Crown Derby don't mark their factory second paperweights other than by putting in a silver stopper rather than a gold one."snip"
But you would also have to do the dirty deed of painting all the rest on as per the pics in Della's post?
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Re: Oih!! Whats this then?? Royal Crown Derby
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2007, 03:27:14 PM »
Hmmm
Just had another look at that and I think it has finely sunken into the fat skull.
The only difference between a first and a second is the colour of the seal?  BUT where do the seals come from?
.....now where is that penny that dropped ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Oih!! Whats this then?? Royal Crown Derby
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2007, 03:35:57 PM »
BUT where do the seals come from?

Probably from on the floor, in between a difficult porcelain jigsaw puzzle......next to the penny  ;) ;D IGMC
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Re: Oih!! Whats this then?? Royal Crown Derby
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2007, 03:43:19 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D
Ok I get the picture or jigsaw or cloak and dagger.
"snip"... you can increase the value of your paperweight dramatically..."snip"
What is a dramatical increase...10-20%...more?
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Re: Oih!! Whats this then?? Royal Crown Derby
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2007, 04:02:27 PM »
First quality could easily be double the price of a second, so well worth the effort.

I think the stoppers come a) from factory workers
b) from broken weights.
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Re: Oih!! Whats this then?? Royal Crown Derby
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2007, 04:09:18 PM »
And I presume for a novice there is (as with glass paperweights, unless they have something like GIIG etched on them) not much to tell the difference between a second and a first?...and at the prices...eeeek!
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