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Offline saorsa

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to Hell with it i went to the auction house and picked it up lol

here are the pictures
it has  a couple of dings and the stopper has been repaired at the top of the neck , i think the cane reads 1840  or 1848 ? when it is enlarged  see what you all think 

it weighs 2.1 kilos , is 6.5 inches tall x 4.5 inches at the base
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Re: millefiori / ink scent bottle amended post now with pictures
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2007, 02:08:09 PM »

Hi,
The date cane reads 1848 to me. I know that there have been a few threads on the 1848 date cane, but I am not a weight collector, so I cannot be of more help, sorry.  ::) :D
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Re: millefiori / ink scent bottle amended post now with pictures
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2007, 02:13:13 PM »
I do not know a whole lot about Whitefriars but they have a distinct look to my eye. This lovely bottle looks very Whitefriars to me.
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Re: millefiori / ink scent bottle amended post now with pictures
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2007, 03:38:32 PM »
Hi,
Having had a look in the Letts guide (the one by Sarah Rossi) it does look like Whitefriars based on the canes, date and dimensions.  The four seperate canes making up the date seems to be consistent as Letts refer to it as "crudely" marked in four canes. I am sure one of the "experts" will be along to confirm or show me the fault of my ways  ;D ;D ;D
I am only slightly jealous >:D
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Re: millefiori / ink scent bottle amended post now with pictures
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2007, 03:58:04 PM »
Thanks all for taking the time and trouble to consult your books it is very much appreciated  , unfortunately ,  i am dealing in  glass items to fund my other hobby ( i promote a band)  . therefore as most of my bits and pieces it will be for sale shortly and will hopefully go to someone who can truly appreciate the work and not as i do as just a way to a means

Thanks for everyones contributions so far 


Greg


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Re: millefiori / ink scent bottle amended post now with pictures
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2007, 04:01:18 PM »
...well I could offer you 20 for it now....and another 20 for your effort ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D >:D >:D
Karel
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Re: millefiori / ink scent bottle amended post now with pictures
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2007, 04:19:48 PM »
lol  how did you know i paid £20  for it  ha ha    i wish  !!!


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Re: millefiori / ink scent bottle amended post now with pictures
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2007, 04:33:17 PM »
...well I found a value for it.....so my bid is not going to be worth much unless you stuff up the listing badly ;D ;D ;D  I would suggest you list it under Farming, Garden, Implements...Lots of people there need bottles, and that is all it is >:D
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Re: millefiori / ink scent bottle amended post now with pictures
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2007, 05:40:52 PM »
Greg - do tell us about the band... in the cafe.
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Re: millefiori / ink scent bottle amended post now with pictures
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2007, 05:55:02 PM »
I have read several threads on the "English 1848 cane" - the general conclusion is that
1. the year (1848) is a fake;
2. it is most likely Walsh-Walsh (possibly Arculus) around 1920/30 - see Robert Hall "Old English Paperweights" (page 114).

1848 seems to be the only year used in this manner (for English paperweights - many other fake years in Murano paperweights) - but this one seems to be quite common: I have seen (on the internet) pictures of at least 5 paperweights / ink wells with canes of this type.

Bob Hall estimates the example in the book at $ 1000-1250 ... but my feeling is that the prices mentioned in the book include some wishful thinking - at least they don't seem to be possible on ebay nowadays: there was one of this type sold on ebay in February - for $ 225.

Several attributions are also for Whitefriars - but there are doubts that Whitefriars produced paperweights before the 1950ies.
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