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Offline Sue C

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Re: Two pieces of Sowerby for assistance please
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2007, 09:18:45 AM »
Ah, thought it could have been the crossed over leaves of the leek, but not so sure now.


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Re: Two pieces of Sowerby for assistance please
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2007, 09:31:05 AM »
No, if they were leeks they would be rather diseased ones I think!   ;D ;D


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Re: Two pieces of Sowerby for assistance please
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2007, 09:36:09 AM »
Lynne, thanks for the Samphire note.  There's a Samphire Ho near Dover and I always meant to Google it...now I have.  :)  I didn't know the other name for Samphire is Glasswort and it was used in the glass industry.  Cheers for the info!   :D :D

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Re: Two pieces of Sowerby for assistance please
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2007, 09:40:35 AM »
and I had forgotten about the glass link - perhaps it actually is samphire rather than twigs? 

(samphire to eat... ptah, ptooey.... all fibres and sticky bits )



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Re: Two pieces of Sowerby for assistance please
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2007, 04:07:13 PM »
Right..... so back to the drawing board for the thistle comport, since it isn't Sowerby at all.

Doh!!!!!!!!

Since when has a Sowerby piece had a Greener mark on it then, eh???  Tell me that then?

(please may I have a new brain for Christmas pretty please.... :'()


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Re: Two pieces of Sowerby for assistance please
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2007, 05:24:32 PM »
Lynne — We all make mistakes — thanks for your correction.

Which Greener punched TM, the earlier Star or the later Halbard / Axe?

As for possible Welsh emblems, the earliest piece I've found is a wonderful black three-legged vase / spill holder, popularly attributed to Davidson (probably without any real evidence) and rather vaguely dated to c.1890.   See Notley/Miller's p.29.   This has everything, including lions' heads and feet, heraldic escutcheons, greek key, floral swags, and panels containing the three floral country symbols, between each of which is a leek/onion/daffodil hybrid of some vague nature.   Perhaps it was just infill.

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Re: Two pieces of Sowerby for assistance please
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2007, 05:34:07 PM »
I think it's the early Angus and Greener star.  I've popped a pic up for us, I'd be grateful if you would check it for me Bernard.

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Re: Two pieces of Sowerby for assistance please
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2007, 05:47:07 PM »
Yes, Lynne, that's the star.   It's not early enough for Angus & Greener, but is either Henry Greener or Greener & Co.

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Re: Two pieces of Sowerby for assistance please
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2007, 06:34:01 PM »
Righty ho, I am just gleaning from the various bits online about the Sunderland/Tyneside glassworks, and obviously misunderstood the various incarnations of Mr Greener and his glassworks! 

Am I right that the star lion was in use 1875-1885?


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Re: Two pieces of Sowerby for assistance please
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2007, 06:41:38 PM »
Lynne — Yes, more or less, with the usual caveats, as no-one really knows that accurately.

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