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Not Gulvase.... but what?
« on: May 29, 2007, 06:46:02 PM »
I've seen a couple of these pop up in the USA recently, advertised as Holmegaard Gulvase, and reach some absurd prices.

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Any clue what they are? I'm not sure if they have some age, or if they're brand new. It looks to have a rough pontil, which discounts it as Holmegaard instantly. I only have one HG piece with an unfinished pontil, and that's a unique frigger.

They reference Pina's 'Fifties Glass' in the auction, but I'm assuming it's just an ordinary Gulvase illustrated (although I'm not sure why a Gulvase (1962) would be in a book on 1950s glass)? I don't own  a copy of it.

Edit: Just had a look at their other auctions, and they've another null-vase...

AUCTION 2
White cased in yellow cased in clear? I don't think so.

Their blue one, however, looks roughly about right - although the blue looks a little too thick at the base and it's either and inch too tall or two too short. Given the other two vases, I'd be highly susepect:

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Re: Not Gulvase.... but what?
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2007, 11:58:10 PM »
Mystery solved - they're brand spanking new, and retailed solely by West Elm (US furniture store).

Poor buyers!


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Re: Not Gulvase.... but what?
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2007, 06:32:59 AM »
Well done Nic!  I did have a look through new stores, but it was hard to coming up with search words.  How did you find out?

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Re: Not Gulvase.... but what?
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2007, 07:41:34 AM »
Someone has a properly described one, with original label, on eBay right now: West Elm Vase

It's such a shame that these photographs aren't going to stick around longer than 90 days. I think I'll ask the seller of the vase above if I can pilfer their photographs for my Holmegaard site's soon-to-be "Commonly Mistaken For..." section.

I wish I had less scruples sometimes - I'd buy up the 5 vases in the auction and make an absolute killing on them (after removing the original labels first, of course).


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Re: Not Gulvase.... but what?
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2007, 07:57:37 AM »
Well done Nic - a great piece of sleuthing.  Do you think though that the seller knows this information and is pulling a fast one or is it a genuine mistake?  Might be worth keeping an eye on his auctions to see if he gets more 'gul vases' on a regular basis ....

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Re: Not Gulvase.... but what?
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2007, 08:20:28 AM »
The seller knows the information now - I just mailed them.

I'm not expecting a reply, to be honest. But then if you could get £100-£200 for a vase you already have on auction by ignoring the message, or £17 or less by paying attention and relisting, even if it were a genuine mistake, it would be a tough call for even a very honest seller.

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Re: Not Gulvase.... but what?
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2007, 09:08:04 AM »
The seller knows the information now - I just mailed them.

I'm not expecting a reply, to be honest. But then if you could get £100-£200 for a vase you already have on auction by ignoring the message, or £17 or less by paying attention and relisting, even if it were a genuine mistake, it would be a tough call for even a very honest seller.

What I meant was, I wonder if they've being bought new from West Elm with the intention of selling them on eBay as genuine.  If that's the case they'll have them for sale on a regular basis - just have to keep watching their auctions I suppose.  Hopefully it's just an honest and understandable mistake.

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Re: Not Gulvase.... but what?
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2007, 09:20:50 AM »
I see what you mean. Sorry, I'm not awake properly just yet.  ;D

I can't see them on West Elm's website, so possibly they're maybe a year or two old.

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Re: Not Gulvase.... but what?
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2007, 10:15:36 AM »
The seller knows the information now - I just mailed them.

I'm not expecting a reply, to be honest. But then if you could get £100-£200 for a vase you already have on auction by ignoring the message, or £17 or less by paying attention and relisting, even if it were a genuine mistake, it would be a tough call for even a very honest seller.

It shouldn't be.  I've just pulled a ceramic figurine (with a bid on it) because I have doubts of its maker - I just sold a similar good one (damaged too) for £67, but the collector had a look at the 2nd one as he was collecting the first, and doesn't think it is quite right.  So I've pulled it.  No brainer. 

 

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