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Offline selina

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vase - ID = Crystal d'Arques decanter - ?
« on: June 11, 2007, 12:52:05 PM »
Hi all,

Bought 3 vases on the weekend at a charity sale. All came from the same deceased estate...apparently there is more to come but they couldnt bring it all...The first one I identified as a Riihimaki ?
The second clear one I thought may be Sklo Union but Im taking a guess..it measures 22cm high weighs just under a kilo and is 7 and 8cm wide at 2 different points.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7409

The decanter measures just over 21.5cm in height. Has etched ferns/leaves on it. Snapped pontil on the base. The lid is hollow and seems to be frosted inside. I was thinking moisture but I cannot find a crack or a hole and nothing Ive done has made any difference to it. Im thinking Victorian  :-\ but Ive been wrong countless times...lol.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7408
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7407
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7406
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7405
Any help would be appreciated. I havent decided whether to keep these yet but if I dont, Id like to be able to describe them to some degree.

Thanks,
Selina
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Re: Sklo Union vase? & ID of decanter..charity sale finds..
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2007, 03:58:34 PM »
Hi Selina, i keep comming back to your vase and each time i think French, but i could be totaly wrong, Marcus would know better, as to your decanter, the image's are a bit dark so it's hard to tell  :-\ and are you sure the stopper fit's ?
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Re: Sklo Union vase? & ID of decanter..charity sale finds..
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2007, 04:00:52 PM »
Very pretty ferns on the decanter Selina, but I am not happy about that stopper... are the two pieces numbered by any chance?


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Re: Sklo Union vase? & ID of decanter..charity sale finds..
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2007, 04:16:54 PM »
Sue, I've been thinking French about that one also - it reminds me of those vases where some of the panels are a red/burgundy colour.  I really don't know for sure if it's Sklo Union or not but my gut feelings are that it's not.  Cooooeeeeeyyyy Marcus :-)


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Re: Sklo Union vase? & ID of decanter..charity sale finds..
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2007, 04:24:28 PM »
That's exactly what i thought Pip, Selina, take a good look at the base to see if there are any marks.


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Re: Sklo Union vase? & ID of decanter..charity sale finds..
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2007, 05:19:21 PM »
I rather think Ivo is correct when he suggest Crystal d'Arques for this (see the comment below the photo in the gallery.) Pip I've seen them with the red panels as well... they are either Arques or Arcoroc I'm sure.


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Re: Sklo Union vase? & ID of decanter..charity sale finds..
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2007, 05:36:10 PM »
Hi,
This does look similar to the French items that also came in plain flint and a pink/orange undecorated. If French it should show numbers to the base. If it has none, then a better image might help, preferably using a dark background, and an image of the base of the vase too, please.
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Re: Sklo Union vase? & ID of decanter..charity sale finds..
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2007, 01:46:46 AM »
Hi all and thanks for your replies and help.

Ive been trying all morning to take a decent shot of them both. I either cant get the focus or the lighting or both correct. Ive taken what I can.
I cant find any markings on either of them. The decanter base is quite scratched so that makes it harder. Plus Im not great at finding marks, I seem to have blinkers on where they are concerned sometimes. The decanter lid fits but at the same time wiggles a bit.
Here are the shots Ive managed to take. Sorry if they are no further help..and Im a bit hopeless at using the 'proper descriptive terms' for the glass.
Ive taken a top view of the decanter also to show the twist effect.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7423
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7422
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7421
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7420
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7419
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7427

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Re: Sklo Union vase? & ID of decanter..charity sale finds..
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2007, 01:26:32 AM »
Hi again with this post...I took the extra pics so I hope noone minds that Ive bumped this back to the front. Mainly the ?French vase is the one I need help with...

Trudy
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Re: Sklo Union vase? & ID of decanter..charity sale finds..
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2007, 05:59:48 AM »
I'm with Lynne in that I don't think your decanter stopper is original to the body of the decanter.  A decanter stopper should echo or at least compliment the shape of the body - yours seems curiously 'out of bonk' (technical term  ;)) somehow.   :)



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