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Offline Gill

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This one has a Davidson look to me but is marked underneath "BRITISH MADE"  It's not cofme out in the photo though/ I don't associate this with any  particular maker but I'm sure someone knows better!

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Re: Unidentified pressed glass bowl and frog.
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2007, 06:33:48 PM »
It's not a pattern I recognise but the colour looks to be a dead ringer for my Davidson bowl here:    http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-500


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Re: Unidentified pressed glass bowl and frog.
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2007, 06:55:13 PM »
Bagley 1333 'Wyndham'


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Re: Unidentified pressed glass bowl and frog.
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2007, 07:29:56 PM »
Gill, ignore my previous post, I just checked Angela's Bagley Book and there's one shown there (page 28) in satin pink the same shape/pattern/plinth, so Bagley Wyndham it is - and Steven is right (as usual.)  8).


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Re: Unidentified pressed glass bowl and frog.
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2007, 08:48:07 PM »
thanks, I'd had a look at Bagley Wyndham and Grantham but didn't see one that seemed quite right, did Bagley commonly mark with "BRITISH MADE" ?


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Re: Unidentified pressed glass bowl and frog.
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2007, 09:37:03 PM »
Gill, YES in a former thread I was told British Made IS Bagley
THANK YOU ALL at this stage for that info  ;D
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Re: Unidentified pressed glass bowl and frog.
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2007, 06:23:32 AM »
It's in Angela's Bagley book and had the option of a black oval or self-coloured plinth


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Re: Unidentified pressed glass bowl and frog.
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2007, 12:09:40 PM »
Hmmm!

Quote from: Mosquito
Bagley 1333 'Wyndham'

Not quite.

Quote from: Anne
... so Bagley Wyndham it is ...

Ditto.

Quote from: pamela
... in a former thread I was told British Made IS Bagley ...

Nearly.

Quote from: Lustrousstone
It ... had the option of a black oval or self-coloured plinth

Not quite.

Perhaps I better explain — and I am bound to be accused of nitpicking.  ::)

Pamela — Bagley used British Made, but sometimes other texts, like Made in England.   Other glassworks used British Made, for example I am sure that I have seen it on a Wood Brothers piece, either an eyebath or a baby feeder, although they also used Made in England.

Mod: Paragraph altered as requested by Bernard.

Gill et al — What's it called?

It first appears to my knowledge in the Pottery Gazette advertisement of September 1, 1934, thus, in the absence of earlier primary material, giving us a likely launch date.   As it was the first of the two 1333 vase sets, it would probably have been known then as "Vase on plinth 1333".

The second, the diamond-shaped set, was apparently launched in the PG advertisement of April 1, 1936, and was described as "Vase on plinth 1333 D".   I think it is reasonable to presume that it was then, Gill, that your pointed oval set became "Vase on plinth 1333 O", which I have seen handwritten with a solidus thus "1333/O".

The name Wyndham was applied to the 1333 range post-war, so if your set, Gill, was then no longer in production, it is not strictly correct to call it Wyndham.

Christine — Option?

Yes, these sets are found today with both matching and black plinths, but I know of no evidence that Bagley sales and marketing ever offered an option.   Of course, if a major chain store or wholesale client had a particular preference, the Bagley salesman was hardly likely to object!   Alternatively matching plinths could have been an exclusive for one major client.   We just don't know, and there are other explanations / scenarios.   Note that the 1934 advertisement shows a black plinth on the oval set, and the 1936 advertisement a matching plinth on the diamond-shaped set.

I hope that clarifies this set's history a little.

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Re: Unidentified pressed glass bowl and frog.
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2007, 01:22:57 PM »
Wow, I'm speechless! So definately Bagley 1333 but not neccessarily Wyndham, may be why I couldn't find it when searching for Wyndham. Excellent answers, thanks.  I have a small glass eye bath marked BRITISH MADE.


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