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Author Topic: Old German Bowl and Silver Stand - need i.d. help please  (Read 2462 times)

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Re: Old German Bowl and Silver Stand - need i.d. help please
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2007, 08:19:22 AM »
Hi Kelli,
Just waiting for a response at the moment, however, I can give you an end-date for Noack, who appears to have ceased work in 1847. Therefore the glass element falls pretty much into the time-frame suggested of @1830-1845.
The castles stamp is for the assay office in Hamburg. Can you tell me if there is a single letter stamped on the silver and if so, which letter?
Thanks and regards,
Marcus

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Re: Old German Bowl and Silver Stand - need i.d. help please
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2007, 01:00:17 PM »
Good morning Marcus!

Hope this finds you well!

Yes, there is a clearly stamped letter "C" inside the portal or door in front of the towers. I will work to get a good closeup of that this evening. :) Many thanks for checking back!

Sincerely

Kelli

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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2007, 02:56:11 PM »
Hi Kelli,
The letter C now gives us the earliest date for the silver foot, of 1829.
I believe that is the letter indicating which assay master was in charge, and thus this mark covers a period from 1829-1854.
Clearly then, we are looking at a maximum eighteen year period (1829-1847) for manufacture of the glass and stand.
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Marcus

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Re: Old German Bowl and Silver Stand - need i.d. help please
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2007, 03:45:08 PM »
Marcus, you're an amazing researcher, thank you again!

Kelli

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Re: Old German Bowl and Silver Stand - need i.d. help please
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2007, 08:03:13 AM »
Just wanted to say that this is fascinating, and I am waiting with you Kelli for the replies to Marcus's research (he is a star, isn't he?  :clap:)

I find foreign silver marks very interesting as they are so different to the UK ones. 

Thank you very much!

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Re: Old German Bowl and Silver Stand - need i.d. help please
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2007, 08:29:05 AM »
Hi Lynne, Marcus and Kelli, this is a good site for silver www.silver-collector.com  it's a bit like this board.

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Re: Old German Bowl and Silver Stand - need i.d. help please
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2007, 08:55:38 AM »
Lynne,
 :-[ :-[
I just done gone red......
M

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Re: Old German Bowl and Silver Stand - need i.d. help please
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2007, 05:46:29 PM »
Thank's for that site Sue.  :cheers:

One day I shall come back. Yes, I shall come back. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine. William Hartnell

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Re: Old German Bowl and Silver Stand - need i.d. help please
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2007, 03:35:02 PM »
Hi Kelli,
The identification of this item is as complete as it can be, as the email I have received today from the curator of 18th-19th century glass, suggests my id is almost certainly correct as Ignaz Pallme 1829-40.
A pleasure to have been able to help.
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Marcus

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Re: Old German Bowl and Silver Stand - need i.d. help please
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2007, 04:30:15 PM »
WOW, Marcus - how exciting is that? It's most certainly the oldest piece I've ever had the privilege to hold in my hands....very, very carefully....whew! 

I can't thank you enough for your work on this project, it has been fascinating!
I'm always amazed when an atypical piece surfaces in such an unlikely part of the world - of all places, Albuquerque, New Mexico.

Sue, thanks for that silver site!

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