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« on: May 23, 2005, 09:11:19 AM »
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2677
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2676

Here are 2 pics from a shop window in Toledo with several enameled ROYO pieces. Royo pieces turn up regularly and there are several books around which repeat the rumour that these were made by Moser in the 1930s - which Moser denies, by the way. It is a bit of a mystery because there seems to be no factory of that name on record.
Now on a grand tour around Spain I saw more tack than you can shake a stick at - but only ONE shop which carried Royo pieces. The sticker reads "Hand painted - made in Spain" - so it seems likely that Royo is a very small outfit in Toledo.
The pieces in the shop were fairly large and had prices of E550 each - so even if you knocked them down by 50% it would still be an expensive glass type.

See also thread: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2048.0.html
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2005, 06:22:41 PM »
This turned up for me today, I bought it hoping it was Royo....

Royo covered vessel with butterflies, approximately 9":

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2684  

...and it is!  :D Hmm.  I'm not quite sure what to do with it now...the shed perhaps?  :lol:  :roll:
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2005, 07:11:54 PM »
Ivo,

  Any chance you remember the name of the store in Toledo that had all the Royo pieces in the window? I'll be in Toledo next week and was hoping to stop in....

thx...

Mike


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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2005, 09:17:16 PM »
You will most likely find the shop in the side street from Calle Santo Tomé close by the entrance to the Santo Tomé Church - famous for the large El Greco painting "Funeral of the Count of Orgaz".
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2006, 03:39:43 AM »
Just in case anyone feels like rehashing the old Moser making 'Royo' myth. Here's a current auction on EBAY that features the 'Royo' signature and it has an 'Arte Catalan Made in Spain' label on it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&item=140000766239&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Nice work but obviously contemporary and obviously not made by Moser.

Hopefully this will put the whole 'Moser Royo' topic to bed once and for all! :roll:

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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2006, 10:10:07 AM »
I'd love to see this one cracked, I've never believed these were a Moser product.  

 I wonder what  information this attribution was originally based upon?

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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2006, 01:34:05 PM »
I'm not too sure who started it but I know that Gary Baldwin perpetuated the myth on page 137 of his book "Moser Artistic Glass Edition Two" where he attributes a enamelled charger signed "Royo" circa 1925 to Moser.

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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2006, 04:51:18 PM »
It was published in 1997, note that it's "Edition Two."   I've never seen the first edition, so I'm not sure if the Royo attribution is made there as well.  I don't recall seeing it made in any other glass books, with the exception of a few price guides (that I probably wouldn't put a lot of credence into them anyhow).   I do not believe Royo is mentioned in the Mergle Moser book (excellent book BTW).

The quality isn't the same as known Moser pieces I've seen or own, but I wonder if the glass could possibly be lower end Moser blanks (going out on a limb here)?

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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2006, 11:26:59 PM »
Its interesting that if you go the the bible of glass marks (Glassmarken Lexikon - Hartmann) he atributes both 'Royo' and 'Cire' to Moser c1920 - more importantly he notes that he bases this solely on 'Baldwin' - no other reference is mentioned - quoting Baldin as having a copyright date of 1988 -presumably the 1st edition.

I've been to Barcelona and seen tons of both (Cire and Royo) in antique shops, with owners adamant that it was locally produced (and very old) -but they would say that.. (yes the prices were sky high)

We also have to take into account Moser did produce massive quantities of glass in many styles - much of it utility and cheap! I'm not surprised Moser says they didn't make Royo.  Come to think of it, I'm told 20 years or so ago Stuart said they never did enamaelled glass either!

So is it Moser or not? Perhaps we'll never know -its amazing the power of one reference in one book. Personally I like a good mystery! But as one source book quotes it as Moser, that's probably the label I'll leave on it when selling the stuff (but without the sky high prices).

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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2006, 02:45:00 AM »
"So is it Moser or not? Perhaps we'll never know"?????? :?

I thought i just clarified that by showing a listing on EBAY with a contemporary "Made in Spain" label.

Am I missing something here?? Does Moser have a mystery factory in Spain??????

Royo / Cire enamelled glass was NOT made by Moser...how can that be made any clearer?? :shock:

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