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Author Topic: Mystery blue pressed bowl, - ID = Poland, Stolle Niemen  (Read 5454 times)

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Offline Bernard C

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Mystery blue pressed bowl, - ID = Poland, Stolle Niemen
« on: May 31, 2004, 07:46:25 AM »
Has anyone any ideas on the origins and date of this bowl?   It was a gift to my partner Janet from Gladys, her very elderly tea lady, after a clear out, so was probably originally purchased from a UK retailer.   The moulded stippling suggests Sowerby Tynesyde glass, but many others used this technique.

Width 9½", height 6¾".   Four-sided mould. Top and foot ground, bevelled, and polished - a high quality production.


Standard image: http://bernard.cavalot.users.btopenworld.com/gm040531a/lg_view1.jpg
or supersize: http://bernard.cavalot.users.btopenworld.com/gm040531a/xl_view1.jpg


Standard image: http://bernard.cavalot.users.btopenworld.com/gm040531a/lg_view2.jpg
or supersize: http://bernard.cavalot.users.btopenworld.com/gm040531a/xl_view2.jpg

Bernard C.  8)
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Not Antipodean...
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2004, 07:58:49 AM »
Bernard,

Ah, this piece!  I don't believe this is Antipodean. The moulding on this piece seems far too good to be Australian. I _think_ that there were only two blues ever made by Crown Crystal (Australia), one using uranium (predominantly in the patterns known as "leaf panels" and "rosette"), and a deeper, non-uranium blue appearing just before WWII (and possibly during the war). As in all of this glass, there is some degree of variability - I take it that the ingredients were lobbed into the pots without precision. The colour doesn't look right to me.

Australian glass is generally rough. Not just straw marks, but ripples, thickened sections, slumps and grit in the glass. It adds to the charm!

I would be thinking Europe, Czech or German - perhaps you should email Siegmar Geisselberger?

Hope that is of some help?
Cathy.

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Mystery blue pressed bowl, possibly mainland European?
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2004, 09:04:05 AM »
Thanks Cathy, your views are much appreciated, as always.   I have changed the title to reflect your thoughts.

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Mystery blue pressed bowl, possibly mainland European?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2005, 06:31:26 PM »
A comment from an "older" member (as in when I joined). I would suggest that Bernard's bowl may be from the same producer as my "Odeon" Carnival bowl (my name for it).

Here's the link to see it.

http://tinypic.com/hujbmc.jpg

You can see other photos of this item in a previous thread on the Board here.
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2233.15.html

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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2005, 10:30:18 AM »
Glen — Ivo has come up with a vase that may be another pattern from the same stable.    See topic Blue pressed vase 1930s.

Note that Ivo has used tinypic.com to host his image, so it may not be available for long.

If we could attribute just one of these it could help with all three.    Anyone have any ideas?

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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2005, 01:14:39 PM »
Bernard - thanks for the "heads up". The vase certainly is similar in many ways. I'll save a copy of the vase pic and try and get some time to search some more.

Thanks again.

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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2005, 04:14:21 PM »
Quote from: "Bernard C"

Note that Ivo has used tinypic.com to host his image, so it may not be available for long.
Bernard C.  8)


I do keep copies of these things, really!

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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2005, 06:07:48 PM »
Ivo — my apologies.   My intention was to make it clear to others that if they wanted to keep a copy of your image for research purposes, they should not leave it too long, or they would have to bother you for another copy.   I was not being critical; completely the opposite.   Unfortunately I made a rather poor choice of words that could be interpreted in different ways.    I have left my words unedited to remind others how easy it is to be ambiguous.

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Bernard - thanks for the "heads up".

 :?: Enlightenment sought, please.   It's not in my dictionary, and I get a wierd response on a google search, assuming I know the phrase.   I presume it means something like "alerting me to the possibility", or is it a modern equivalent of "chapter and verse"  :?

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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2005, 05:22:22 AM »
A Head-Up Display, also known as a Heads-Up Display or simply HUD, is any type of display that presents data without blocking the user's view.
Is this what you mean Glen??
Or, Heads Up! was Toronto duo Death from Above 1979's debut recording, a six song EP released by Vancouver label Ache Records.
[From Wikipaedia].
Ruth

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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2005, 08:41:00 AM »
I'm so used to writing in EngAmericlish that I forget where I am sometimes. You'll notice that I often lose my "u"s (I think they're in a Sainsbury's carrier bag, tucked away in a drawer somewhere).  :lol:

My understanding of "heads up" just means, thanks for letting me know, though I think it usually also implies thanks for the advance knowledge.

Hopefully someone will verify or correct this. My apologies for not being clearer, Bernard.  :D

Glen
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