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Offline eglass

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Vase - Blue Cut to Vaseline? and other strange effects....
« on: June 24, 2007, 03:18:39 AM »
Hello again!

I have a piece of glass that is kind of strange. I thought it was blue cut to rosy amber glass, but then I hit it with the UV light and whammo - guess it's blue cut to vaseline?


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Here's the weird thing. After I finished taking the UV photos, I brought the vase back out into normal lighting, and it still has that green glow. I've never heard of a piece retaining its "glow" after it was removed from UV light. I'm wondering if the darned thing is safe to have around, lol....

Any input most appreciated, as always.

Kelli
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Re: Vase - Blue Cut to Vaseline? and other strange effects....
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2007, 03:23:46 AM »
Reminds me of this one http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,14555.0.html, although they're totally different vases other than the cased uranium component.


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Re: Vase - Blue Cut to Vaseline? and other strange effects....
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2007, 03:37:08 AM »
Definitely the same type, Cathy! Thanks - I'll watch Mr. Vaseline Glass' post also to see if anyone has an idea on a maker.

Kelli


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Re: Vase - Blue Cut to Vaseline? and other strange effects....
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2007, 09:45:47 AM »
Cross reference added to other topic to attract Dave's attention.


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Re: Vase - Blue Cut to Vaseline? and other strange effects....
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2007, 04:06:24 PM »
Hi lovely vase. I suspect the lingering glow is just the UV in the external light (sun). I think these are often felt to be Bohemian/Czech and they are quite desirable


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Re: Vase - Blue Cut to Vaseline? and other strange effects....
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2007, 11:46:12 PM »
Christine, thank you for the additional information -  that sets my mind at ease about the lingering glow, and I appreciate the confirmation on the Czech/Bohemian roots.

Kelli :)


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Re: Vase - Blue Cut to Vaseline? and other strange effects....
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2007, 03:15:56 AM »
Kelli
Is there 'honest' wear on the bottom, or does the piece look in perfect condition?  There is some very limited production of this type of glass coming out of the Czech Republic right now.  The cutting does not look delicate enough to be Val St. Lambert, which is the most famous company to do two-color glass, with vaseline glass as the underlayer.  Some company in Czechoslovakia (before Czech Republic was born) was in competition with Val St. Lambert and made some nice glass.  The glass that is coming out of the Czech Republic now is also nice glass.  I don't know what company made the stuff in the 1920's, but I do know who contracted with the various artisans in the Czech Republic to make the current glass.  It is not made by a particular factory.  Instead, these two glass dealers/collectors arranged for 5 different glass masters to each do the particular step they were best at, and the pieces were shipped from glass worker to glass worker to end up with a finished product.  I have a goblet and vase, both with a blue outer layer and vaseline under-layer.  I have not seen this shape come from those sellers, but they have had a few shapes I did not know belonged to them until I saw who the ebay seller was.  They are up front about it that it is modern glass.  The glass is not a 'reproduction', as it is all done from blanks they have had created and then cut.  They also have them made with a red outer layer and vaseline inner layer.  Due to the popularity of the vaseline glass as it is today, all that have been made have an inner layer of vaseline glass.  They are all unsigned.  My service provider must be doing some work right now on their equipment, cuz I can't seem to upload pics right now.  Check for surface wear on the bottom.  Also, when you list this piece, please let me know!  my email is davepeterson >at< icnet.net  (just take out the >at< and put in a @ sign.  thanks!

oh, regarding the glow after you took it away from the UV.  I see it is sitting near a table lamp.  that can make the green show up more. also, camera flash can do it too.  vaseline glass does not continue to glow after removal of the UV source.  you cannot 'charge' up a piece and then remove the light and expect it to keep glowing.  put the light on it for as long as you like...then take it into a closet with no external light.  it won't glow.


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Re: Vase - Blue Cut to Vaseline? and other strange effects....
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2007, 12:43:58 PM »
OK, I finally got my uplink done.  Here is a new piece that I was telling you about.  I have also written to the glass dealer, but his father answered and said he would have to wait until his son got back from a trip to answer whether or not it was one of theirs.

I bought this piece, new, 2 years ago from the dealer:
http://www.vaselineglass.org/bluevase05.jpg

Dave
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Re: Vase - Blue Cut to Vaseline? and other strange effects....
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2007, 11:37:30 PM »
Dave, thank you!

New or old, that piece you posted is absolutely stunning!

The one I have does have what looks to me to be 'honest' bottom wear, and is more of a light amber than it is the pale green of that newer piece you posted. I'll get a couple more photos of it, including the bottom, if that helps. :) I agree, the cutting on this vase is not very detailed, but nice looking - more like some of the old pieces that I've seen with the white cased cut to red, green or blue, with the little enameled flowers etc on parts of it.

I hope to list it this Sunday, but I'll sure let you know. Photos will be in the morning, I'm on a laptop, commuting....


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Re: Vase - Blue Cut to Vaseline? and other strange effects....
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2007, 02:27:36 AM »
Dave, here are some better photos, in bright white photo lighting.

The first two are the bottom, and a closeup of the bottom. The others are just more side and pattern shots in the same lighting.

Maybe it will be easier to tell if it's one of the oldies, or one of the newer ones being made that you mentioned.

Thanks again for your input and guidance on this piece!

Kelli

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