Topic: Stevens & Williams ? Shell Dish Update Pictures

[Connie]

I always think of this color combination as being S&W, but is it?

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3665

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3664

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3663

The dish is 5 1/2 inches by 5 1/2 inches and only 1 inch deep.  It has a ground base.

Go to this album to see all the pieces

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=231

[Bernard C]

Connie — Why S&W (renamed Royal Brierley in 1931)?   I would have thought more likely contenders would have been Webb, Whitefriars, and any number of glassworks in Scandinavia, Murano, and central Europe.   I have never seen glass of this style attributed to S&W / RB.

Bernard C.  

[KevinH]

Hi Connie,

I go along with Bernard's general comments and I would add that I think S&W pinks were of a more subtle shade.

[Anonymous]

Connie ? you seem to have a lot more information on S&W than me. Where should I be looking?

Bernard asked me this is another thread.  But instead of hijacking superglass's thread, I thought I would move the discussion of S & W here.

Bernard - my first experience with this type of glass (3 layer - white, pink, amber) was this http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3661 Ruffled Hobnail Bowl
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3660 Inside Bowl and here is the  http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3670  Bottom of Bowl, polished pontil

I had this bowl appraised by Leslie Hindman when her group was doing on-line appraisals.  They were the first to suggest S & W or Mt. Wash circa 1860-1880.  I was later told by others that it was not Mt. Wash.

Then I had this Toothpick in a silver holder - Same technique
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3669
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3668
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3667
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3666

I also have a Handled Ewer - a very similar piece with similar applied decoration is identified in American & European Decorative Art Glass by Husfloen & Aubin.  While this pitcher does not have the pink inner layer, the white body is very similar and the gold edging.

But I don't have any printed references which identify the 3 layer glass as being S&W, which is what my original question was.  Is this truly S&W?  Where should I look?

Connie

[Leni]

Connie, I have always thought of the particular shade of pink in your hobnail bowl as being not quite right for S&W.  It's just a tad too pink!  Also, I must admit I tend to think 'Fenton' first whenever I see hobnail things 

I am interested in the ID of your little toothpick holder, as I have a vase which is very similar but with turquoise inside instead of pink, but with an identical amber frill     Haven't got a pic of that, unfortunately.

However, I do have an S&W Acanthus trailed vase very similar to your pitcher with applied work, the white outer body of which is uranium glass and the interior pink.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1623
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1622

Is your pitcher uranium?  I also have a similar vase which has strawberries and leaves on it, however I have always thought this to be Central European not S&W, as it's not uranium and the quality slightly different. 
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1621
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1620
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1619
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1618

Being no expert, but greatly interested in this area, I await Bernard's comments with interest.

Leni

[Connie]

Leni -

The deep pink is obtained by the amber gold glass overlay - as best as I can tell. The amber glass is actually over the whole piece rather than just applied to the edge which makes the pink that deep rich salmon or watermelon color.

I haven't put either piece under a UV light but I will.  The toothpick and hobnail bowl are happily residing in new homes so I can't test them  :wink:

Leni can you show the inside of your S&W Acanthus vase?  How did you determine it was S&W?  What does the base look like?

[Leni]

Leni can you show the inside of your S&W Acanthus vase?  How did you determine it was S&W?  What does the base look like?

 :x  :x  :x Still without camera!   :cry:

The inside is a peachy-pink.  I think it's S&W because it's identical to the S&W examples shown in Skelcher's 'Big Book of Vaseline Glass' (my bible!  :shock: ) and it's got the S&W 'daisy' prunt on the pontil mark  

Leni

[Connie]

Bumping this up because I found this piece on eBay

Boulton and Mills ? Mod: Dead link

Thanks to Dave (mrvaseline) for posting a link to Top Shelf's auctions in another thread.  I have been familiar with this sellers auctions for years but don't regularly follow them.

The pictures are very dark in the auction but the coloration seems similar to the pieces I have been questioning - the dark pink interior, white exterior and amber crest.

What do you think?  Any more information on the English company Boulton and Mills?

[Anonymous]

Connie,
B& M were probably Stourbridge, late 19th/20th century. Pattern books held in the glass archive of Dudley Metropolitan Borough Council, at Himley Hall.
Regards,
Marcus

[KevinH]

I have asked the selller of the "Boulton & Mills" Rose Bowl which parts of Manley's book have been used as the id.