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Author Topic: Lampwork paperweight - id help please  (Read 2689 times)

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Offline SimonD

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Lampwork paperweight - id help please
« on: July 04, 2007, 08:38:43 PM »
I'd appreciate your help in identifying this pansy lampwork paperweight. It measures 2.61 inches diameter by 2.1 inches high and has a brown and yellow flower with stem and three leaves. The leaves have two rows of bubbles running along them. The centre of the flower has a complex millefiori cane though it is not very distinct. The flower rests on a swirl ground made of 26 milky white rods. The base is concave with a wide rim that has been worn matt with age. The weight seems quite heavy ie made of lead crystal.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?album=418&pos=3
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?album=418&pos=4
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Re: Lampwork paperweight - id help please
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2007, 08:43:09 PM »
Hi Simon,

I am sorry, but I cannot help with your weight, but when you copy and paste a link to a photo, you have to use the url that is given in the box under
the photograph.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7771
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7770
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7769

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Re: Lampwork paperweight - id help please
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2007, 09:37:28 PM »
hello simon, it is a viola rather than a pansy and i think it maybe chinese dating from the 1930s. the latticinio basket looks very similar to a chinese example i have.

kindest regards theglassnut...


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Re: Lampwork paperweight - id help please
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2007, 09:55:32 PM »
Hi Simon,

Wonderful paperweight.  New England Glass Company c.1870.  I think this is incredibly rare. 

No chance that this is Chinese.

I don't have anything like this, but check out my tutorial on Poinsettias to distinguish Chinese from the real thing.

http://paperweights.com/poinsettia.htm

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Re: Lampwork paperweight - id help please
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2007, 05:02:40 AM »
Hi,
That frosted basal ring in the second pic, is that not suppossed to point to Clichy? I am not saying it is....I am asking for some (more) education ;D
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Re: Lampwork paperweight - id help please
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 02:27:44 PM »
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That frosted basal ring in the second pic, is that not suppossed to point to Clichy?
Not necessarily. Many companies used a frosted basal ring and a concave polished base, including ones from Bohemia, America and France. Anyway, the frosted part looks far too wide to be Clichy.

I will trust Allan's attribution to NEGC. As for rarity - it must be extremely rare - I cannot see a similar weight in John Hawley's definite book on the subject!
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Re: Lampwork paperweight - id help please
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 04:25:23 PM »
A few extra observations:

  • The whole composition (leaves, bud, off center flower) is typical NEGC
  • The leaves with the double rows of bubbles are also NEGC
  • The base looks like NEGC to me but that is an external detail that can change with time (and refinishing)


  • One thing that does not match is the number of rods in the latticinio, which should be 32, not 26.  Simon, can provide a full picture of the bottom so I can count the rods myself. 

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    Re: Lampwork paperweight - id help please
    « Reply #7 on: July 05, 2007, 10:35:38 PM »
    Thank you everyone for their valued information.

    As there are queries about the base, here is a photo of this too:

    http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7788

    I count 26 rods in the swirl, which is 6 short of the normal 32 expected of a NEGC.

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    Re: Lampwork paperweight - id help please
    « Reply #8 on: July 06, 2007, 09:59:35 PM »
    here is an interesting comparison, it has the same small bubbles along the leaves. and it is identified as NEGC. so i stand corrected.  160135031688

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    Re: Lampwork paperweight - id help please
    « Reply #9 on: July 20, 2007, 07:22:23 PM »
    Hi Simon,

    I wonder if you have learned anything new aout this papeweight.  I'd like to post a picture of it on my website at some time in the future.  If you want, send me a private email.  Just click on my website link below for my email.

    Thanks,

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