Topic: Is This Nazeing?

[Anne]

David posted a copy of a Nazeing lantern advert in GlassGallery recently - does this help at all?
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2950

[johnfandmaryp]

Hi Anne, and many thanks.
I looked at that link while doing my research before, but am not sure if it helps much as it's c1950 and I believe that the Priory pattern no. 75/7 (which I thought mine were) is from the 1930's. Comparing those in your link with the ones in the 1930's catalogue which I have been sent a copy of, there are some differences, especially in the shape of the cage.
Mine are actually slightly different from both, but a lot closer to the 1930's catalogue! 
Thanks again for your help, John

 

[Frank]

I can lay my hands on half a dozen catalogues with this style of lantern, they were very widely produced in many countries. Some would have been creative but equally some could have just copied pictures from other makers.

[nigel benson]

Hi John,

If the page you have is a copy of is out of Geoff's book, then both the page illustrations he shows are from the 1950's catalogue. [Edit: I've just noticed you quote 75/7 as the code - this is the 1950's code for "Priory".]

He says, in the section under 1950's catalogue - Lanterns, page 101, second sentence, "In many cases the names were the same as the pre-war originals, but the shapes were changed."

On page 31 of the text he also discusses the metal used and the method of construction. The frames were made by a local firm, George Hettdem and Sons. Originally, the wire was round section and later square. In the 1950's the frame was made using spot welding techniques and an expensive non-rusting nickel wire, which when finished gave an antique appearance. (I have paraphrased Geoff's section)

By looking at the photo's of the 1930's versions, shown on pages 98 -100, it is fairly clear that the wire was connected traditionally using metal (wire) clips. The pre-war "H7 -Priory" design is nothing like yours, but the lantern - H3 - called "Abbey" is similar as it uses the circles, but all the other metalware is clipped directly to those circles.

I hope this helps, Nigel

[johnfandmaryp]

Thank you Nigel ~ it helps a lot!
Will have another good look at everything before making a final decision about what to do with them.
Very many thanks again for your time and trouble, John.

[lddlsa]

I have resurrected this thread again as I have today bought a Nazeing Priory lantern.  Generally I am not confident when it comes to Nazeing but on this occasion I will stick my neck out!  Regretting my moment of confidence already!!  It exactly matches the design shown for H7 in Fig 74 in Geoff's book, the frame is square section, rusty and held together with metal clips.  I haven't contributed to the Board for a long time and am unsure about adding photographs but will give it a go if anyone is interested.

I now have one small problem, it is quite a large thing and I can't exactly display it on my Nazeing and possibly Nazeing shelves.  I could hang it in the porch and actually use it as intended but should appreciate some advice.  There is only one small hole in the top of the lid through which a cable should just about go through.  There are no holes for any heat to escape from when the bulb is on but would this be a problem?

Your comments would be very much appreciated.

Lynne

[lddlsa]

Hi
I was wondering if Nigel (or any other Nazeing collector) might be able to give me the benefit of their opinion on the lantern.  I may well be going to the Glass Fair at Chilford hall on Sunday but would rather not lug the beast of a thing there to show Nigel who will no doubt be very busy.  I couldn't decide what to do with it and so for the time being it is hanging under a tree in my garden!

[Frank]

At the time it was quite common to use only 2 core no earth, so holes were kept small. Heat of the bulb is no problem. You could clamp an earth to the external frame but might then have waterproofing problems so make sure to seal the cable entry well.

[lddlsa]

Thanks for that Frank, I think I will put it in our porch which is open on one side only so it would only be affected by the humidity levels rather than direct attack by rain.  Still hoping that someone will confirm it as definitely Nazeing though! :X: