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Author Topic: Oreor - Vases, Lamp Bases etc.  (Read 4131 times)

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Offline KevinH

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Re: Oreor - Vases, Lamp Bases etc.
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2017, 06:24:30 PM »
Mod: Bump ... following merger with thread from 2007.

Any thoughts on this interesting subject are welcome.
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Re: Oreor - Vases, Lamp Bases etc.
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2017, 07:12:28 PM »
Couldn't the Belgian company have been a wholesaler?
Also, I've been reading up on Inwald edited - I meant Barolac.  I may not have got all the info straight, but it 'seemed' to me that they might have made (some) glass ranges/designs for other companies, and to the other companies' designs. Or that Barolac was some form of trade name?

Perhaps that was the same with Oreor ?  that it might have been a 'trade' name?

And I think there was a Belgian factory making this type of 1920s pressed glass vases?
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Re: Oreor - Vases, Lamp Bases etc.
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2017, 02:45:40 PM »
Now he threads have been merged I can see that Mike M also mentioned a Belgian maker in the other thread

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Verriers De Scailmont SA

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Re: Oreor - Vases, Lamp Bases etc.
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2018, 02:23:56 AM »
This might be of interest... http://www.irismonument.be/fr.Bruxelles_Pentagone.Rue_du_Vautour.59.html - the photo of the building is clickable to enlarge it.  They also supplied metal buttons for army uniforms https://www.europeana.eu/portal/en/record/2023010/71022A51_priref_3824.html
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Re: Oreor - Vases, Lamp Bases etc.
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2018, 03:45:05 PM »
Wonderful, Anne. I'm going to try and solve this one by research (I'm recently resident in Belgium and reresearching my website accordingly)
Here are my 'working thoughts' (credit to all contributors), which I will also share with my Belgian professional contacts via email.
I really hope that we can solve the puzzle, although I guess I'm not the first to try. :)

Van Haeleweyck Frères was founded in 1855 and were still in existence in 1929. Their address was 63-69 Rue du Vautour (Gierstraat), Brussels.  the company registry number, 3646. Clearly the company was selling in bulk since the receipt lists 54 each of 3 different product lines" The front of the building is marked "Lusterie - Van Haelesweyck Frs - Pendules"  and the invoice adds 'Verrerie d'eclairage' (Lighting Glass)-  Oréor

It seems clear that these designs were intended (mainly) for use as table lamp bases. (The last one was not the first found with it's original lamp fitting)

I think it's clear that the word 'Oréor' is NOT a factory, but must then be either a designer or a brand name. (This is also indicated by the format of the
Van Haeleweyck paper ; that they were exclusive distributors). Implies that they may have ordered or made designs (moulds) and then will have had the items produced by a third party (outside Brussels). The fact that they were sometimes described as 'French' may be misleading us?!

There are a few added clues for deductive reasoning:

    Normally the Oreor supplier would be within 'easy reach' of Brussels, if that IS indeed where they were distributed.
    (This implies more likely candidates Scailmont?, Sars?, Hunebelle? Muller Freres?)
    All the designs seem to be from the same designer. (combining geometry and round forms)
    Considering there are several different designs, all clearly marked, there are not very many survivors, implying that production numbers were low. (It was not identified  at all by Hartmann or Kappa, and GlassMessages have only found a few!)
    The "oreor'  mark is into the side of the mould (not the base!) and written in script. This is quite unusual as a style of marking. Scailmont is one of the few factories that did it this way, and indeed even the handwriting is quite close to that on Scailmont/ Heemskerk/ Catteau items. also Carillo?
    There is usually a special significance to chosing a trade name. 'Or-é-Or ' could be a reference to gold, but doesn't seem that likely. Could it be an anagram, regional name, wife's name, initials, or a pun?
    Production quality is 'mid-range'  and there are signs of flecking on the satine surfaces. The Items are quite thickly cast, although there are no traces of seams around the body (as far as I've inspected)

So far there are 6 models found, and they were probably available in white, light amber (honey), light-blue, sea-green, uranium?green and light purple.
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Re: Oreor - Vases, Lamp Bases etc.
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2018, 10:22:31 PM »
Glad it was of interest, Jay. :)   I did a Google image search for Oreor glass and it produces a fair few results... including 2 darker amethyst coloured vases.
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