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Offline selina

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Pressed glass proverb / saying bowl?
« on: September 04, 2007, 09:35:12 PM »
Hi,

I got this the other day from ebay. No real value as its damaged. But I was curious as to where it comes from and its age. Its only a small shallow bowl. 12.5cm wide. The top is smooth and all the patterning is on the base. Tiny dots make up the saying. There is also extra glass around the outside, like when a mold is made and the excess glass hasnt been removed.

The proverb seems old 'A good name is better than riches'. So basically I just wondered all about it. What it was used for? Any information as Ive never seen one before.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-8399

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Re: Pressed glass proverb / saying bowl?
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2007, 10:20:12 PM »
Hi Trudy,
The proverb is from the Bible Proverbs 22.1 according to my googling.


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Re: Pressed glass proverb / saying bowl?
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2007, 10:53:20 PM »
Trudy — It's by Greener & Co., The Wear Flint Glass Works, Sunderland, from around 1888.   There are design elements in your plate/bowl that you will also encounter in their baskets that carry three registrations, found in blue, amber and flint.   In front of me I have a low, handled candlestick with similar style wording "GOOD NIGHT".

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Re: Pressed glass proverb / saying bowl?
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2007, 05:17:47 AM »
Trudy — It's by Greener & Co., The Wear Flint Glass Works, Sunderland, from around 1888.   There are design elements in your plate/bowl that you will also encounter in their baskets that carry three registrations, found in blue, amber and flint.   In front of me I have a low, handled candlestick with similar style wording "GOOD NIGHT".

Bernard C.  8)

Thanks Bernard, Hil! Wow, 1888. No wonder it has damage. Although even the damage is weird. Cracks but only on the inner part of the glass, none can be felt on the outside. I'll have to look the company up. I thought it was old from the wording, but you never can tell these days.

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Re: Pressed glass proverb / saying bowl?
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2007, 05:40:21 AM »
Trudy — Try http://www.theglassman.co.uk/index.htm   Incidentally here you will see an amber version of my "GOOD NIGHT" candlestick.

Note that Davidson made similar plates.   For example "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ" is Davidson.

"SUPERCALIFRAGILISTICEXPIALIDOCIOUS" plates were by Nailsea.

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Re: Pressed glass proverb / saying bowl?
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2007, 06:46:26 AM »
Hi Trudy
Your cracks may not be cracks, they may be pressing flaws and very common in this sort of Victorian glass. A close up of one might help

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Re: Pressed glass proverb / saying bowl?
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2007, 10:04:24 AM »
Hi Trudy and all,
as far as I can see there is in fact a crack at about 8.00 h - which in my opinion does not at all detract from the plate's real beauty!  :D
The excess glass cannot be removed by fire polishing, it would destroy the fine pattern of the text also.  :o

Normally these plates were for bread or biscuits, depending on the size.
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Re: Pressed glass proverb / saying bowl?
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2007, 10:34:18 AM »
Pamela, Christine, there are 2 large cracks (I'll try for pics)..and some tiny ones which look like faults.  Before the lady was going to send it, she told me there were chips on the outside. I thought it was old and said I dont care, send it anyway. The 'chips' are actually bits taken out of the excess glass and not affecting the main part of the dish.

It is beautiful and the blue and the lovely way the saying is done was what attracted me to it. I was so disappointed when I saw the cracks but they are easy to miss as they show up on an angle not straight on. And I didnt pay a great deal for it, so it was worth taking a chance I thought.

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Re: Pressed glass proverb / saying bowl?
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2007, 10:49:41 AM »
Nice plate Trudy, I don't think I've seen one with a proverb on before - I like it!  :D

Mine has 'Give us this day our daily bread'...so I keep my spare change in it in the bedroom.   ;)

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Re: Pressed glass proverb / saying bowl?
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2007, 11:03:37 AM »
Max — That's a lovely example of the Davidson style.   The alphabet plate is similar.

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