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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2005, 07:11:56 AM » |
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Thanks Javier Those are very interesting. The silver and green one from Copenahgen shows that some importer / retailers labels can be interesting in themselves and help with provenance if not ID.
Have you come across any plain paper makers labels with just a product number ? or original price on them ? maybe with a company name written in pen ?
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2005, 08:10:29 AM » |
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Found another one - Maestri Vetrai (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/avalonsmile/newshots196-1.jpg) I'm having difficulty pining down this company. There was one called Cappellin, M.V.M. (Maestri Vetrai Muranese Cappellin) which closed in 1931 Murano Magic says that the trademarks and designs were sold to Gaetano Ceschina There is what would appear to be the old version of of this company's label here http://www.burchardgalleries.com/auctions/2004/feb2204/01images/l33.htm Anyone know anything about the modern incarnation of this company ??
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2005, 09:56:54 AM » |
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Another two labels for consideration, although they do throw up a slight anomoly. These are what I call 'Clam Dishes' due to the shape and are unusual as they have two ground and polished bases for placing upright or on their side. Click any photo to enlargeThis first photo shows the three I have: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/t-clam-labels01.jpg)The next shows a rather worn, but virtually intact label and is on the blue/amber one to the right. This shows L. Nason as the maker: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/t-clam-labels02.jpg)This is on the small green/amber one. The initials are either 'DSV' or 'SDV'. Any help on this would be appreciated. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/t-clam-labels03.jpg)I suppose these demonstrate how makers would often copy each others designs, particularly if they proved popular. Unfortunately the red/amber one is not labelled. I also have several 'V. Nason & C' labels that I will have to post — unfortunately I believe they closed down recently. This is the firm of Vincenzo Nason, who I believe was originally part of the Nason & Moretti group (comprising many members from each family) and probably related to L. Nason. There are other Nason makers; Ermanno being famous for his modernistic glass sculptures in the 1960s.
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2005, 10:01:08 AM » |
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Details of a book on Ermanno Nason can be seen at: http://www.theglass.it/book.htm
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2005, 09:41:03 PM » |
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Peter, I have several pieces of Maestri Vetrai. With one I got a little card. Here is their website http://www.azzurrasrl.it/ Hope you speak Italian. Terry
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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2005, 10:13:08 PM » |
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... Have you come across any plain paper makers labels with just a product number ? or original price on them ? maybe with a company name written in pen ? Hi Peter, Yea I have, some with just numbers written in pen, or typed numbers. I have 2 or 3 pieces with actual prices, and labels intact, but I packed those up a while ago. They are a Barbini lighter set of 3 pieces, and on the labels underneath they were priced at $6 each in pencil. Which was their original price in the 50's. Unfortunately I never got around to take photos of them. Since they were in Mint condition I decided to packed them back up. I'll see what other labels I have with written numbers on them and I'll post them. Usually they would be gereric paper labels with just "Made in Italy" on them. Javier
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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2005, 05:28:36 AM » |
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Hi Max, Here are the labels... I couldnt find the piece that has both of them intact, but this one has the 2 labels in very good shape. (http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/gfaflabl.jpg) Here is another label, underneath a Seguso "style" fish on pedestal. (http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/firenze.jpg) Im unsure what the 1st part is, but the last part seems to be "nuova" and "firenze" underneath. Javier
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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2005, 05:30:53 PM » |
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Firenze is Italian for Florence, so I imagine it was made there.
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2005, 07:02:07 PM » |
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Thanks David, I kind of firgured that one out, but wndered what the first letters in front of "-------nuova" are. Any guess? Im afraid that was the best photo I could take. The green is a bit faded so its also silvery like the letters so its pretty hard to read. Javier
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2005, 07:54:11 PM » |
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From what I can make out, it reads:
3vigndnuova
'nuova' is new, but the rest doesn't scan. Is that a '3' at the beginning?
But I'm also wondering if the large central 'K' could mean anything significant? Any Florentine glass makers beginning with 'K'?
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« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2005, 06:43:26 AM » |
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Hi David, Yea it looks like a 3, maybe a B or a Z? I know in German the Z can look a bit like a 3, but no idea if in Italian it is used the same way. Maybe someone out there knows a bit more Italian or has come across the label. Also have no idea what the "K" is, the gallery logo? ... Have you come across any plain paper makers labels with just a product number ? or original price on them ? maybe with a company name written in pen ? Hi Peter, Here's some of them (http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/madeinitaly.jpg) (http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/rectangle.jpg) (http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/segusorectngle.jpg) Javier
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« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2005, 08:22:26 AM » |
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Maybe the mark is Bvigndnuova like Bvlgari One of the hot designers right now (helps to have a teenage fashionista) :wink:
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« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2005, 09:45:50 AM » |
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Hi Javier, Also have no idea what the "K" is, the gallery logo? A good point: it could be a Gallery/Dealer label rather than a maker. Doesn't entirely rule it out as being Murano then. The 'z' character in German normally applies to lower-case only and then has a flat-top. Purely a German character though to the best of my knowledge. Grayhorse: nice idea - must admit I did think Russian... except for the mention of Firenze, of course :wink: but it is possibly a stylistic character. For some reason I'm not being informed of all the updates to this board (not just this thread) so I might be a bit late replying.
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« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2005, 09:59:50 AM » |
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Bvlgari (Bulgari) is an Italian company  Edited to add: I was wrong Bvlgari Perfumes was found in Switzerland in 1993 :roll: The point I was trying to make is that a "u" is sometimes written like a "v" for flaire or marketing - gives the illusion of exotic.
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« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2005, 10:03:04 AM » |
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Yes, I realise that - I was referring to the '3' character from Javier's label looking rather Russian 
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