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Moser -glass blowing
« on: October 07, 2007, 10:12:39 PM »
Folks - sometimes even a few seconds can make you think something's probably worth sharing.... even if I can actually view all of this as I'm still on prehistoric dial up.

Moderators please kill this is there is anything unexpected in the 6 and a half minutes that come after the very interesting 6 seconds I could view or if I'm covering something already shared (I could not find it on a search).

http://youtube.com/watch?v=z4_MKYTys14

If you look there are similar clips from other factories too! -also not viewed

cheers and hopefully enjoy

Mike


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Re: Moser -glass blowing
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2007, 08:27:26 AM »
A suggestion Mike - let the whole Youtube load - the dark red line behind the bright one that shows how far it has got in playing - turn the sound down and go make a coffee or something.


When the dark red line reaches the end, (or you come back from the kitchen with your coffee) restart it, it will often then play without stopping and starting.  I have 8G broadband and it still stopped and started all the way through on the first go - oh and it looked like a very long piece, but it was just a still (with hissy sound track!) from halfway through to the end,

Interesting the lack of health and safety... the girl assistant walked with the hot glass on a rod (I assume to another part of the factory - the piece didn't look completely finished?) through a group of people standing around - just as well she stopped talking on her mobile for that....



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Re: Moser -glass blowing
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2007, 10:02:59 AM »
Hi all,
As you say, Lynne, you get to about 1'30" and then the picture freezes and you get a lot of staticky hissing - I was wondering whether it was just my pseudo-broadband doing that or something wrong with the video. Was the woman really chattering on her mobile as she held the mould closed? I couldn't get it to work again after the first attempt.


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Re: Moser -glass blowing
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2007, 10:31:54 AM »
A suggestion Mike - let the whole Youtube load - the dark red line behind the bright one that shows how far it has got in playing - turn the sound down and go make a coffee or something.

Easier still is to press pause immediately after starting the download. That way it will still load the entire movie first and you can then just press play.

Edit: Yes, after 1:20 is goes completely messy for the whole movie.
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Re: Moser -glass blowing
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2007, 12:05:11 PM »
A suggestion Mike - let the whole Youtube load - the dark red line behind the bright one that shows how far it has got in playing - turn the sound down and go make a coffee or something.

Easier still is to press pause immediately after starting the download. That way it will still load the entire movie first and you can then just press play.

Edit: Yes, after 1:20 is goes completely messy for the whole movie.


Oh yes, pause is also a workable method for us with broadband... but for poor Mike with his dialup he probably still has time to go and make a coffee!!  Drink it and do the washing up as well probably.

And yes, she was talking on her phone.. gets everywhere doesn't it?   ::)


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Re: Moser -glass blowing
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2007, 09:57:23 AM »
Thanks for all the suggestions

Yes I managed to see the 1.22 of good material -quite amazing -both from a glass making point of view and as you said H&S.

Cheers

Mike





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Re: Moser -glass blowing
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2007, 11:04:31 AM »
Yes, the assistant was talking on her mobile while holding the mould closed, but she was not on the phone when she released the mould. Seems she was well in contorl of her role. The piece she moved was presumably being taken to the annealing area prior to finishing.

The "group of people standing around" were actually two other folk with cameras and may well have been part of an "official team" making videos. One of them took a definite step backwards and checked behind him as well, suggesting that he was aware of what was happening and his surroundings.

From a personal experience during a group visit to the Harrachov Glassworks in 2004, I can say that safety was an important point stressed at the start of the visit. Also, as can be seen in this photo the working area is quite similar to that shown in the Moser works - with central furnaces and outer walkways. Note in my photo that the floor has yellow lines to mark the safe viewing area. For closer views of actual processes, we were escorted, a few at a time, into the central area where again strict protocols were explained.

Another point of interest in my photo is the pair of overhead ladders, which carry long iron rods strung from rollers on the ladders and with loops and supports that hold the formed pieces. Although these are not seen in the photo, there are regularly several moving around the work area taking items to the annealing ovens - thus avoing the need for assistants walking the distance, but increasing the need for visitors to be vigilent and observe the viewing rules!
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Re: Moser -glass blowing
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2007, 11:25:12 AM »
...as much beer as required during the day - at special worker rates.

It would be interesting to find out when this practise started and where the workers had to pay for the beer, and where the beer was given as part of the wages. Another snippet from a Jobling house-journal of 1958, courtesy the Glass-Study.com:

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Of course, glassmaking and glass blowing was not new in Sunderland, and naturally, traditions that had been built up, and accepted in the glass industry, were soon implemented among the blowers. One of these traditions was the drinking of beer while working. This was to replace lost energy — that’s our story and we’re sticking to it. More important to the new man however, was to know how to get his beer on the slate. It was generally an expensive education to learn that you must send an identification token with the “can boy” when you got your beer. Until you arranged this with your local landlord, you were very liable to be the recipient of a “heavy bill”. Ask George Dixon.
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Re: Moser -glass blowing
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2007, 02:53:02 PM »
With respect to Chance Brothers workers, it was a long-standing practice that was still accepted until 1976, when the rolled plate division closed. From what I understand, it was a practice that goes way back in history, but was absolutely necessary to replace fluids, not just energy. As Chance had its own beer cellar, I believe each worker was allowed a pitcher each day.

The reason for them drinking beer, and not water, is purely down to sanitation. Prior to proper quality controls, water was quite a hazardous substance to drink due to there being so many water-borne diseases and beer, having been previously boiled and treated, was actually far less risky to imbibe. With it becoming such an acceptable practice, it would have become very difficult for the management to actually stop the practice and besides, surprisingly, no accidents due to alcohol use were ever recorded.
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Re: Moser -glass blowing
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2007, 04:44:38 PM »

That seems more sensible than the girl walking through.

 

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