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Re: Testolini
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2007, 06:10:54 AM »
ok, just looked at my Venetian glass book, and it does show a Lace design as Marletto.
Sorry, just used to seeing Marletto as the Seguso design.
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Re: Testolini
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2007, 12:07:13 AM »
here is the conversation that Anita had mentioned (which, i hardly think qualifies me as an expert but, thank you just the same :) : "Bidda, today I ran across another vase that is probably by Testolini that has the same shape as your vase. The one in the link is a filigrana piece, but the shape reminds me of Salviati's granziola pieces, too. Have you been able to find an exact match for your vase? The link to the Testolini vase is http://www.great-glass.co.uk/shops/shop1-1.htm

Anita"

Anita, thanks for that link!  the shapes of the Testolini and Salviati vases are, indeed, very very similar. i was not too familiar with Testolini so i did a little digging and came up with this "The Testolini company was a large retailer of Italian textiles and lace in Venice during the late nineteenth century. Expanding into Venetian glass, in 1910 his firm absorbed the Compagnia Venezi - Murano (CVM). In 1920 Testolini merged with Pauly & Co., which is still in business." on http://www.margolisandmoss.com/cgi-bin/margolis/results.html?searchfield=cat1%2Ccat2%2Ccat3%2Ccat4%2Ccat5%2Ccat6%2Ccat7%2Ccat8&searchspec1=Photography&sortby=pricedesi thought the lace/latticino connection was particularly interesting.

on another site i found only one mention of Testolini with an image of an opalescent/opalino/opaline/opal ;) stem (on pg. 242) http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/attachments/bulletin/3_p149_256.pdf
and the caption (which is written in Dutch but, when plugged into babel fish comes out almost understandable) "jumbo derrick eel of opaak blank and zachtblauw glass. H. 30.5 cm, diam. 14.9 cm. venetië, approximately 1880-1895, possibly salviati & co. The model, finishing with the remarkable, swung back, getordeerde in two flowers, prevents tribe in illustrated current, briefly appeared in 1889, or afterwards, of the firma M.Q. Testolini. These had established to the San Marcoplein in venetië; the only well-known copy of the aware current is himself in a private collectie in that city. Testolini had involved much glass of the boasted firma Salviati & co. (since 1877 confessed as the Venice & Murano glasses Company Ltd.), but had sold also to work of other venetiaanse glasblazerijen (with thanks to drs. Reino Liefkes). origin: Verz. Joh. Rolling up; Kunsth. Frides Laméris, Amsterdam. Purchase with money given by Jaffé-Pierson the foundation, 2000 (inv.nr. bk-2000-1)." if i understand it correctly Testolini was somehow associated with Salviati for a time? i'm not sure, at this point if Testolini produces and/or imported/retailed art glass. do you have more information on them?...

to answer your question, though, no, i have yet to find an exact match for my tiny vase.
(here is a photo of my tiny vase for reference http://www.glasscache.com/Pop_ViewProdImage.asp?phid=75

Svazzo, i'm not positive by i believe that Seguso's "lace" was called Merletto, not Marletto which would explain the confusion.

i believe that Salviati also had a technique called Merletto (which just means "lace" in Italian)... in fact, here's an example http://www.great-glass.co.uk/library/lib4aa.htm (about mid-page, second to last Salviati piece shown). Harrtil also had a Merletto technique which was similar to Seguso's but very intricate and precise. http://www.glasscache.com/Pop_ViewProdImage.asp?phid=433

hope that's helpful to someone :)

have a great night, everyone,

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Re: Testolini
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2007, 10:43:22 AM »
 There is also another type of Merletto developed by Archimede Seguso these are often heavy bowls or ashtrays and the lace effect is more like a plain net curtain or fishnet with no pattern, imagine a couple of layers of curtain or fishnet lightly ruffled up with spaces between them. I believe the Czech firm, Hartil? copied these, i have one that i think is one of theirs.


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Re: Testolini
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2007, 01:13:00 PM »
Johnphillip,Anita,Bidda,Svazzo and Anne,Just a quick message to say thank you for all your help.

And apologies Anita...I think I called you John in an earlier post!


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Re: Testolini
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2007, 01:39:03 PM »
here's a labeled example of Seguso's "Merletto" http://antiquehelper.com/item.php?itemID=41863 a technique that he unveiled at the Venice Biennial in 1952
here is some info on Harrtil "Merletto". i do not know their source but it's interesting just the same. http://www.modernistglass.com/glasspieces/view/1932

apparently Seguso displayed his Merletto 3 years prior to Metelak's Harrtil so it's conceivable that he was "influenced" by Seguso if not attempting to imitate. it's equally possible that Metelak, in Czechoslovakia, wasn't at the Venice Biennial and developed his technique without ever having seen Seguso's.

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Re: Testolini
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2007, 04:54:31 PM »
 Thanks Bidda you have confirmed my thoughts that is near identical to my Harrtil bowl i have owned it for about ten years, it was demoted to my shed last year i think i will stick it on ebay soon as funds are low.Regards John. PS Thanks for the Czech spelling lesson.


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Re: Testolini
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2007, 03:40:00 AM »
Hiya,
Found this 190170534234 on eBay. Johnphillip,could this be the Salviati cups & saucers you were refering to? The lace technique appears almost identical to mine but the eBay one is signed Salviati.
Just a shot in the dark here but,given that I have often seen ceramics by quality makers marked only with the retailers mark (for example,the wares of T.Goode & Co,South Audley St,London) could it be possible that my little glass was created by Salviati and retailed through the Dr M Testolini Store in Venice therefore being marked as 'Testolini' ? There's a picture postcard of this store available here
http://www.vintagepostcards.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=VPC&Product_Code=ADVEEU-P6713&Category_Code=ADVEEU
Does anyone know if Dr Marco Testolini and MQ Testolini were the same people? From what I initially established before posting in the forum,was that Dr Marco was a merchant who 'expanded into Venetian glass' but does this expansion relate to the creation of glassware or does it simply refer to the business of selling of it?
Just a wee thought...
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Re: Testolini
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2007, 06:53:10 AM »
A short note on the Harrtil. I've got a few pieces of Harrtil (why, I'm not sure) and the key is that there is an actual net embedded in the glass. I don't think that it was copied from Seguso as the effect is quite different. The technique is totally different, although both must be difficult as I don't see many copies of either around. My preference is for the Seguso but then there's the cost. Quite a lot of it was imported into Canada as it was carried by at least one of our major department stores, Eatons.

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