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Author Topic: FBS mark (French, Scottish, Italian & Czech glass... US retailer?  (Read 8416 times)
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« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2007, 10:34:22 PM »

There are plenty of bad attributions on the web. We tend to ignore them, or treat as 'possible or probable' if there is nothing to back it up, until proof comes along.  But you can use the attributions as starting points, often they trace baxk to a book, sometimes that confirms and other times there is just a dead end as the author does not give any sources for attribution.
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« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2007, 03:59:40 AM »

Thank you for the information I have received from you all.  Since there doesn't seem to be a lot of information about this vase, I'm happy about what I do know.
At this point, I think I'll just go ahead and list it on ebay in a few weeks and let someone else figure out what it is.

I do appreciate your help, though.

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« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2007, 04:17:41 PM »

Another French example. Probably an enamelled mark as the piece had transfers and gold striping too.

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=300140161974

Does anyone know which glassworks and actual years of production of this piece
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« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2008, 11:02:29 AM »


On my vase the mark was an acid stamp with the divided circle similar to that shown on the Monart vase on Frank's site, however, mine differed in that there was a second, outer circle, containing the words 'TRADE MARK'.

Missed that remark before, another one for a trade mark search, probably US. Not in on-line uspto database.
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« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2008, 09:57:58 PM »

I have a very similar mark on a Czech porcelain demitasse...


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« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2008, 10:22:36 PM »

They obviously covered a wide range of quality goods, it is remarkable that this still remains unknown! Howabout Fred's Bargain Store... g'night Wink
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« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2008, 10:26:31 AM »

A hand painted mark...
http://www.collectorscircle.com/bohemian/porcelain/unidentified/FBS-Italy.jpg
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« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2008, 01:39:52 PM »

I found a possible candidate in some recently arrived US list of importers from 1921 and 1922:

Ferdinand Bing & Co. 'S succrs (Presumably Successors)
Art Wares and Novelties, Pottery, Bronzes, Marble and Lamps.
67-69 Irving Pl. New York

I have no time to follow this up now.
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« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2008, 08:15:24 PM »

Just did a Google.  Didn't find much though.

This talks about a legal issue with Ferdinand, etc. from 1914
http://books.google.com/books?id=p04LAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA708&lpg=PA708&dq=%22Ferdinand+Bing+%26+Co%22&source=web&ots=r-F-QrAAsq&sig=SefDz_JdRjnKe68wLL7I5Zcw9F4&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result

This mentions them in passing, but gives dates 1898-1900 and 1905-1911, at some point during which there was correspondence with the firm.  "Succrs" does mean "successors."  Never heard the term in that context before.
http://www.albanyinstitute.org/collections/library/Research_and_Resources/FindingAids/Annesley&co.%20HP%2081-05.pdf
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« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2008, 10:20:12 AM »

That archive might contain examples of any logo they used! Anyone live in range?

 Albany Institute of History & Art    125 Washington Avenue  Albany, NY   12210
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« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2010, 03:20:00 PM »

Maybe the Y shaped design is a basic copy of the Harrach Coat of Arms?
http://www.glasscollector.net/ProjectHarrach/ProjectHarrachGlassID.html

I did find a similar mark, this one attributed to the Harrach glass factory although it has different letters around it...
http://sites.google.com/site/loetzandglass/harrach--a-glass-mystery-solved

Just a thought.
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« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2010, 03:54:22 PM »

Different mark...
http://www.collectorscircle.com/bohemian/Porcelain-2/porcelain/unidentified/images/gs001Unknown-Mark-0039-FBS.jpg

This one set in a triangle....
http://www.figurines-sculpture.com/unusual-sevres-type-mark-with-red-triangle-fbs-france.html

The OOF and FBS marks must be somehow related to each other....

Compare this mark that Della posted...
http://www.collectorscircle.com/bohemian/porcelain/unidentified/images/gs001Unknown-Mark-0068-FBS.jpg

With these OOF marks....
http://www.collectorscircle.com/bohemian/Porcelain-2/porcelain/unidentified/images/gs001Unknown-Mark-0089-OOF.jpg
http://www.collectorscircle.com/bohemian/Porcelain-2/porcelain/unidentified/images/gs001Unknown-Mark-0090-OOF-Fischer&Mieg.jpg

Very similar.
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« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2010, 07:40:12 PM »

The net widens still further - thanks for adding in.
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« Reply #43 on: August 08, 2010, 11:19:54 PM »

I am not sure if my pictures posted....


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« Reply #44 on: August 08, 2010, 11:24:03 PM »

Not only did the pictures not post but neither did the text! Anyway, I posted some pictures of some glassware that I had on the murano forum. Someone told me that there was a discussion on this board about the same vase that I had...
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