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Offline BJB

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Who might have made this thingy/whatsit?
« on: July 01, 2005, 01:52:22 PM »
I have this come into my hot sweaty hand, and I would like to know if it is a real Art Deo thingy/whatsit or a later copy. :?

It is in clear frosted glass and has a series of what I think are called puti (sp) around the stem bit, and around the rim is a garland of flowers. It is 6.5" tall and 4.5" across the top. The base has a lot of wear around the edges, and looks genuine.

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It could be the base of a stand, but there is no wear around the top of the rim.

http://tinypic.com/6jkfu9.jpg

I wondered if it might be Walther, I can't see any marks, so I don't think its English. Have the Chinese copied these yet :D  :oops:

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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2005, 03:21:02 PM »
Barbara — as it's not a pineapple stand (they went out of fashion eons before), and it's not a witches' crystal ball stand, it must be a gazunda (plinth).    I have seen them with matching bowls atop.

It's not British, and very Waltheresque (a flash way of saying that I don't know but it wouldn't surprise me if it is Walther).    There is a two piece Three Graces comport that looks to be from the same origin.

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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2005, 04:00:45 PM »
Hi Bernard,

Many thanks, don't think this could ever had had its top though, there is no sign of any wear at all in or around the rim.

 I wonder if you bought the two seperately, and if you were not quite as well off as some you only bought the bit you liked :?

Would explain so many bowls and not so many thingy/whatsits :D

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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2005, 04:21:11 PM »
Barbara, I have the twin to your "gazunda" (nice term, Bernard). Mine is pale frosty blue. I also do not have the bowl, but I have seen the complete two piece deal at antique fairs. I hope that one day I'll find the bowl.

I have not yet ID'd the maker - hope that someone else may be able to help us here.
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2005, 05:24:46 PM »
Glen, what did the bowl look like?

Did it have little puti's on or was it just flower decorated (just in case I see one somewhere......) would love to see a complete thingy/whatsit/gazunda :D

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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2005, 05:27:14 PM »
No puttis. Nothing figural at all. The bowl was wide and slightly cupped up at the sides. I believe it had panels. I think I would recognise it if I saw one  :?
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2005, 05:34:46 PM »
Hi

I have looked through various Walther catalogues from 1930's to 60's but cannot find this particular design. They did make tri-figural pieces but none that I can find that relate to puttis. My guess would be Czech....but then that is beginning to sound like a stock response these days when we dont really know :roll:  :roll:

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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2005, 05:37:28 PM »
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :o


Thought it might be easy to recognise, just my luck :(

Did it have a sticky outy bit on the bottom to fit in the reccess to stop it falling off?

I had the three graces one ages ago, and it had a peg-like sticky outy bit on the bowl :?

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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2005, 05:41:44 PM »
Yep, I also did all the Walther catalogues a while back - and no luck. I agree that the current "catch-all" seems to be "muzbecheck"...well it's a step up from the old Carnival Glass "catch-all" which was "muzbeenglish".

Barbara....no peg, or so I believe. I also have the Three Graces, and yes that piece has a peg.
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2005, 01:05:46 AM »
The link to the Pressglas-Korrespondenz site shows a base like Barbara's and the bowl that should sit on it.

Here's the cherub centrepiece:
http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2005-1w-blomfield-aufsatz-cherubs.pdf

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