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Re: Multi-colored PELICAN ? Is it the M word ?
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2007, 07:32:38 AM »
 :hiclp: Yours are beautiful....
You know -- IF I saw these, I would have thought Murano...Honesty.  I am a newbie, but to me the quality, and the flow would honesty make me think that they were Murano.  I wonder if anyone else would think that?

These are so beautiful....they deserve there own special heading here on GMB (own topic page), just like Murano glass has, in my opinion.....or is there one since I thought even mine (might) be Murano glass.

IF these (at least to me - as a newbie) look like Murano glass.....why would there not be a seperate page just dedicated to these in order to show this maker design, and to help people identify FM verus Murano....I am just a regular person, and this are just look SO beautiful....its like to me, a new hot collectible IF not much is known by regular people about them (shapes, styles, items, flow)....

It is just a (silly? but valid) suggestion....

Thanks shandiane  ;)

Oh, and what is the years these were made by FM, and what it the origin again...
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Re: Multi-colored PELICAN ? Is it the M word ?
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2007, 02:18:07 PM »
Hi Rose, Ronneby Marcolin comes under Scandinavian Glass, so confirmed items can be moved over to the Scandi forum. :)


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Re: Multi-colored PELICAN ? Is it the M word ?
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2007, 03:22:43 PM »
thanks Anne.

So me, and my *bird* are moving there then?  lol

thanks

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Re: Multi-colored PELICAN ? Is it the M word ?
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2007, 09:45:06 PM »
It's a suggested Ronneby attribution still I think, Rose, so we'll leave it here pro temps. Perhaps someone will produce a labelled one or a catalogue to confirm at some time. :)


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Re: Multi-colored PELICAN ? Is it the M word ?
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2007, 11:21:13 PM »
It is worth noting, as Ingela and I have found out, that there are some V.Nason (Murano) pieces that are very similar to FM Konstglas. We are talking shape, design, style and even the internal (sommerso) effects used by both companies.

We came to the conclusion that there could have been some 'cross-pollination' of designs and ideas between the two factories. Many FM pieces are signed (but not all) and most Nason is labelled (only a few are signed). Some pieces have neither mark nor label and can probably only be distinguished by the tools used to pull and pinch the glass, or subtle differences between the sommerso effects.

Did the Marcolin brothers ever collaborate with Nason, possibly in the 1990s?

Unfortunately, Ingela has most of the FM pieces, and I have most of the Nason ones! ;)
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Re: Multi-colored PELICAN ? Is it the M word ?
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2007, 12:54:03 AM »
Hi antiquerose123,

V. Nason, Murano, have as already mentioned a very similar style to FM but I do
not know if they have ever used this colour combination?

If your bird is FM, which I believe it is, then I would date it from mid
1960's to mid 1970's.

-FM Konstglas was founded in 1961 by two Italian brothers who had come to
Sweden in 1954. Josef and Benito Marcolin. They started in Eneryda
(Sweden) but quite soon moved production to Ronneby (Sweden).
- Josef and Benito Marcolin grew up in Murano and are both trained in the
Murano technique.
- Josef's and Benito's brother-in-law is Aure (Aureliano) Toso who also moved
to Ronneby to work at FM.
- Josef Marcolin was married to Inga-Lill Färe, thus the company name
Färe-Marcolin.
- The company name changed from FM Konstglas to FM Marcolin Art Crystal in
the early 1980's. In the late 1980's they dropped FM and the company name
was then Marcolin Art Crystal.
- They closed down in Ronneby in 1991.

I have some Webshots albums with lots of FM photos:
http://community.webshots.com/user/gimnyr

Marcolin Art Crystal:
http://www.marcolinartcrystal.com


I do not think your bird is a swan. It looks more like a pelican ...  ;)  ...and I think it is lovely!


Ingela

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Re: Multi-colored PELICAN ? Is it the M word ?
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2007, 01:39:06 AM »
So true! Here's my small collection:
Shannon


Hi Shannon,

Lovely collection!

Do all the objects have a FM label and/or inscription?

Just curious!


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Re: Multi-colored PELICAN ? Is it the M word ?
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2007, 04:43:22 AM »
I'll have to double check, but I think the gray bird is the only one without a label or signature, so I suppose it could be Nason. I saw a fish on ebay that was actually signed Marcolin Italy! Do you think this would have been made before the move to Sweden, or do you think it's more likely a later creation? If he came back to Murano at some point, that might explain the cross pollination of styles and techniques. Here's the Marcolin Italy piece I saw:

http://tinyurl.com/2uy4zm

Shannon
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Re: Multi-colored PELICAN ? Is it the M word ?
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2007, 10:15:47 AM »
Getting an error on that URL, Shannon.

With so few FM Konstglas pieces around that are unsigned, it is reasonable to assume that one with a blank base is Nason. But that's all it can be: an assumption until compared with known (labelled/signed) pieces employing the same techniques.

FM pieces can also be cross-referenced with known pattern numbers.

Quote from: Ingela
V. Nason, Murano, have as already mentioned a very similar style to FM but I do not know if they have ever used this colour combination?
You have the greater expertise on FM, but I was just explaining in general about the similarities between the two makes.

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Josef's and Benito's brother-in-law is Aure (Aureliano) Toso who also moved
to Ronneby to work at FM.
Hmm, I wonder if it was Toso who pollinated the style to Nason? But it is recorded in Ivo's book, Miller's Glass Fact File A-Z, that the Marcolin brothers did work in Sardinia 1994/5, before retiring. However, I think they moved back to Venice/Murano and worked there for a short time, possibly as advisors (to Nason?) In fact, I think they are still working in Murano.

Ingela, Ivo records the Marcolin Brothers as having their own company from 1961 to 1994.
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Re: Multi-colored PELICAN ? Is it the M word ?
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2007, 06:37:00 PM »
Trying again with the link:

http://tinyurl.com/3agy78

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