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Offline Martyn K

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Unusual corosso divided bowl...Venini?..Scarpa?
« on: December 13, 2007, 02:31:31 PM »
Hi,

Does anyone recognise this devided corosso bowl..?? it's 14cm (5 1/2in) long and 6.5cm (2 1/2in) high

My gut feeling is it may be a 1930s Carlo Scarpa design for Venini?....there's a page from the 1936 catalogue reproduced in 'Italian Glass Murano. Milan 1930-1970' pub. Prestel, that shows a drawing of a similar looking bowl (cat. number 4111) but it's very small and short of detail.

The pale lemon yellow colour appears a good match for one Venini used on these corosso pieces and the quality is very nice but it's not marked and I cant find anything at all with the unusual resist trailed raised design.

I might be on the wrong track so would appreciate your thoughts.

Many thanks,
Martyn.
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Re: Unusual corroso divided bowl...Venini?..Scarpa?
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2007, 03:36:53 PM »
For 'corosso' read 'corroso'.....Oops.
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Re: Unusual corosso divided bowl...Venini?..Scarpa?
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2007, 03:46:41 PM »
ZBS Czechoslovakia  :) in Citrine (colour). I have one, which was ID'd by Ivo.

Just found the thread: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,5818.0.html
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Re: Unusual corosso divided bowl...Venini?..Scarpa?
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2007, 04:45:05 PM »
Many thanks Della..

SNAP...nice are'nt they!

quote from IVO..."The yellow ("citrine") ashtray would most likely be Zbs, Zeleznobrodske Sklo and from fairly recent vintage."

Is that a confirmed ID?? Personally I would'nt have guessed a recent vintage..mine had a lot of deeply ingrained grime that was'nt easy to shift at all (you can still see bits in the pics after a long soak and good scrub), the design, colour, shape and finish dont look particually recent to me either? they have a very 30's to 50's feel to my mind.....Be great if someone could point me towards a similar modern ZBs piece.

Can we move and maybe retitle for other opinions please Mods.
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Re: Unusual corosso divided bowl...Venini?..Scarpa?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2007, 07:36:13 PM »
Just noticed looking at the close-up of the base on yours Della it has considerable wear which does'nt suggest 'recent vintage' either...?
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Re: Unusual corosso divided bowl...Venini?..Scarpa?
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2007, 07:45:11 PM »

It has plenty of wear to it, Martyn. Your observations are correct. I have just been surfing and trying to find out some more info, but it is not very abundant, to say the least.  8)
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Re: Unusual corosso divided bowl...Venini?..Scarpa?
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2007, 07:49:45 PM »
I've been doing the same and think these deserve being revisited before an attribution gets set in stone....
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Re: Unusual corosso divided bowl...Venini?..Scarpa?
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2007, 08:09:04 PM »

I just found this one Martyn http://cgi.ebay.at/Vase-ZBS,-Zeleznobrodske-Sklo,-Relief,-ge%C3%A4tzt,-1960_W0QQitemZ180184979948QQcmdZViewItem a completed item on ebay. It has the same finish.  :)
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2007, 08:51:22 PM »
Well found !!

That certainly looks a good match and from what I can make out they're saying circa 1960....I'll keep looking....
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Re: Unusual corosso divided bowl...Venini?..Scarpa?
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2007, 09:25:27 PM »
The yellow is nice but that blue vase is fabulous
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