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Author Topic: Scailmont vase (split from Re: CALENDAR: Last few images needed!)  (Read 22767 times)

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Hi David, great work - thank you so much! :clap:
This is the lampbase Peter paradisetrader sold to me as Scailmont - it is unmarked but could fit/suit October 2008 ?

How interesting Pamela - your 'Scailmont' vase matches mine exactly (apart from the colour obviously!).  My green vase had the name 'Catteaux' worked into the design on the lower half  of the vase - have another look for it on yours I'm sure it must be there.

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Re: Scailmont vase (split from Re: CALENDAR: Last few images needed!)
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2007, 09:58:32 AM »
Hadn't escaped me either Pip, having had to move them about for best positioning (surprisingly hard, those three vases!) The designs are subtly different though.

Da mn is not really a swear word, so I am surprised it got censored.
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Re: Scailmont vase (split from Re: CALENDAR: Last few images needed!)
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2008, 05:06:45 PM »
Pip, I investigated it again thoroughly today, it is definitely not marked. Is your mark etched or pressed? Photo possible please?
David et all:
I guess I should have photographed it from the same angle as Pip's  :-\ - perhaps we find a matching corner...
Shall download (YES Anne it works perfectly within oneandahalf minute - thank you!) and print your/our beautiful calendar tomorrow and compare again.
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Re: Scailmont vase (split from Re: CALENDAR: Last few images needed!)
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2008, 10:34:45 PM »
The good point about those two vases is that it shows GMB in action - provoking debate about two similar pieces with different attributions (maybe!) :D
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Re: Scailmont vase (split from Re: CALENDAR: Last few images needed!)
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2008, 07:05:16 PM »
http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2007-2w-sg-vase-niemen.pdf

traced this today, could thus also be Poland Niemen  :huh:
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Re: Scailmont vase (split from Re: CALENDAR: Last few images needed!)
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2008, 07:12:31 PM »
You're right Pamela - they're both by Scailmont designed by Charles Catteaux, although David's correct, there are very subtle differences between ours (sorry to hijack your calendar thread David!).  Here's the pressed signature on mine which says 'Ch.Catteaux'.

(erm... I seem to have lost the insert photo box  :huh: I'll put the image on photobucket and get back...)



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Re: Scailmont vase (split from Re: CALENDAR: Last few images needed!)
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2008, 07:33:49 PM »
I've pulled the Scailmont posts out as I think these need to be moved over to Glass rather than left buried in the Calendar topic. :)
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Re: Scailmont vase (split from Re: CALENDAR: Last few images needed!)
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2008, 08:20:59 PM »
Thank you Anne!
Pip, beautiful mark and photo of it, thank you!
We shall investigate further then  8)
Unfortunately neither Catteaux nor Catteau on Wikipedia or Google, just some Belgian petrol suppliers... could they know more of grandfather or so?

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Re: Scailmont vase (split from Re: CALENDAR: Last few images needed!)
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2008, 09:05:54 PM »
Charles Catteau didn't produce much glass, he's far better known for his ceramics for Boch Keramis.

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Re: Scailmont vase (split from Re: CALENDAR: Last few images needed!)
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2008, 10:53:34 PM »
Pamela, I found these links which will give you a bit more info about the man and his work:
http://www.charles-catteau.be/
http://www.kbs-frb.be/catteau/
http://www.kbs-frb.be/catteau/engels/Qui_est_Charles_Catteau.htm
http://www.ceramique1900.com/catteau.html
As Pip says, it's mainly about his work in ceramics though, but has some background info on him that may help find out more about his glass designs.

Incidentally, I found another example of the vase in a yellowy-green here: http://pages.brendaginsberg.com/5100/PictPage/3923167280.html
and a different design bowl here:
http://www.prices4antiques.com/itemsummary/125376.htm

And I just found a really interesting page which talks a bit about his glass work here:
http://www.royalboch.be/en/history.html (scroll down to find the main part on him.)
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