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Author Topic: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds  (Read 8438 times)

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Offline David E

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CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« on: January 13, 2008, 03:51:43 PM »
Anyone recognise this "CIIG" sandblasted signature on this weight? Ground and polished base and a simple design: four bubbles forming a spray, purple core.

The CIIG logo is my interpretation - it might be upside down!
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Re: CIIG signature?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2008, 04:59:56 PM »
Caithness second, David.
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Re: CIIG signature?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2008, 05:01:58 PM »
Thanks Frank - they made sure there was no mistaking the seconds!  ;D
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Re: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2008, 09:39:56 PM »
I found this interesting on the Caithness site

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As part of the production process some unlimited edition paperweights do not meet the strict quality levels required of a first quality Caithness Glass paperweight and these items are classed as second quality and sold through our Visitor Centre and factory outlets. These paperweights can be easily identified as second quality as they carry no markings on the base. In previous years we have also used the markings CIIG on the base to denote a second quality paperweight.

so some of the unmarked pieces we see, may well also be second quality Caithness...

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Re: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2008, 10:37:39 PM »
... or reading it anotehr way: only those with markings, but not CIIG, are first class.

Also, if you look at the marking on this paperweight, it would appear they had the mask the wrong way round (G upside down). Does this make it a 2nd class reject, or something?  ;D
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Re: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2008, 10:41:35 PM »
David, if you were able to look down and see the mark from the top it'd be the right way round, wouldn't it? ;D

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Re: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2008, 10:43:13 PM »
Nope, not with the purple ground in the way! :)
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Re: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2008, 12:11:21 AM »
Maybe it's a second, second with the CIIG going the wrong way?  ;D
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Re: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2008, 12:20:20 AM »
Nah, that should read CIIIG!   ;D

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Re: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2008, 12:30:48 AM »
David - with your upside-down CIIG mark, the weight must therefore be worth much more as it will be more "unique" than other examples.

I think the statement by Caithness Glass about the marking, or not, of "seconds" is perhaps a bit of a generalisation and can be misleading to many people. It may be true that, from some undefined date, only unlimited weights not of good enough quality have not been marked on the base. But does that imply that rfom that same date, limited weights that were not up to scratch have always been destroyed? And anyway, I two examples of the same design weight ("Latticino", 1976), one of which has a CG cane in the base as the form of signing but the other does not, and yet the latter is not marked CIIG as a second! If I were new to collecting weights and was not aware of the particular design and when it was produced, I could assume that my weight-without-a-CG-cane must therefore be a fairly modern second item!
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