No-one likes general adverts, and ours hadn't been updated for ages, so we're having a clear-out and a change round to make the new ones useful to you. These new adverts bring in a small amount to help pay for the board and keep it free for you to use, so please do use them whenever you can, Let our links help you find great books on glass or a new piece for your collection. Thank you for supporting the Board.

Author Topic: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds  (Read 21990 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline David E

  • Author
  • Members
  • ***
  • Posts: 3908
    • Heart of the Country, England
    • ChanceGlass.net
CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« on: January 13, 2008, 03:51:43 PM »
Anyone recognise this "CIIG" sandblasted signature on this weight? Ground and polished base and a simple design: four bubbles forming a spray, purple core.

The CIIG logo is my interpretation - it might be upside down!
David
► Chance Additions ◄
The 2nd volume of the domestic glassware of Chance Brothers
Contact ► Cortex Design ◄ to order any book

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline Frank

  • Author
  • Members
  • ***
  • Posts: 9508
  • Gender: Male
    • Glass history
    • Europe
    • Gateway
Re: CIIG signature?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2008, 04:59:56 PM »
Caithness second, David.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline David E

  • Author
  • Members
  • ***
  • Posts: 3908
    • Heart of the Country, England
    • ChanceGlass.net
Re: CIIG signature?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2008, 05:01:58 PM »
Thanks Frank - they made sure there was no mistaking the seconds!  ;D
David
► Chance Additions ◄
The 2nd volume of the domestic glassware of Chance Brothers
Contact ► Cortex Design ◄ to order any book

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline josordoni

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 1693
  • Gender: Female
  • Location: Swinging London
    • United Kingdom
    • Josordoni Collectables
Re: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2008, 09:39:56 PM »
I found this interesting on the Caithness site

Quote
As part of the production process some unlimited edition paperweights do not meet the strict quality levels required of a first quality Caithness Glass paperweight and these items are classed as second quality and sold through our Visitor Centre and factory outlets. These paperweights can be easily identified as second quality as they carry no markings on the base. In previous years we have also used the markings CIIG on the base to denote a second quality paperweight.

so some of the unmarked pieces we see, may well also be second quality Caithness...

Thank you very much!

Lynne
x
Josordoni Collectables - eBay Store

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline David E

  • Author
  • Members
  • ***
  • Posts: 3908
    • Heart of the Country, England
    • ChanceGlass.net
Re: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2008, 10:37:39 PM »
... or reading it anotehr way: only those with markings, but not CIIG, are first class.

Also, if you look at the marking on this paperweight, it would appear they had the mask the wrong way round (G upside down). Does this make it a 2nd class reject, or something?  ;D
David
► Chance Additions ◄
The 2nd volume of the domestic glassware of Chance Brothers
Contact ► Cortex Design ◄ to order any book

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline Anne

  • GMB Tech Support Manager & "Board (never bored) Dame"
  • Global Moderator
  • Members
  • *
  • Posts: 14600
  • Gender: Female
  • I has a stick to poke the server with yes!
    • Glass trinket sets
    • Cumbria England
    • My Glass Collection
Re: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2008, 10:41:35 PM »
David, if you were able to look down and see the mark from the top it'd be the right way round, wouldn't it? ;D
Cheers! Anne, da tekniqual wizzerd
~ Glass Trinket Sets ~ GlassLinks ~ GlasSpeak ~ GlassGallery 
 ~  Glassoholic Blog ~ Glassoholic Gallery ~

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline David E

  • Author
  • Members
  • ***
  • Posts: 3908
    • Heart of the Country, England
    • ChanceGlass.net
Re: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2008, 10:43:13 PM »
Nope, not with the purple ground in the way! :)
David
► Chance Additions ◄
The 2nd volume of the domestic glassware of Chance Brothers
Contact ► Cortex Design ◄ to order any book

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline glasstrufflehunter

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 584
    • My Yahoo 360 page & Paperweight Blog
Re: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2008, 12:11:21 AM »
Maybe it's a second, second with the CIIG going the wrong way?  ;D
I collect Scottish and Italian paperweights and anything else that strikes my fancy.

My Paperweight Blog

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline Anne

  • GMB Tech Support Manager & "Board (never bored) Dame"
  • Global Moderator
  • Members
  • *
  • Posts: 14600
  • Gender: Female
  • I has a stick to poke the server with yes!
    • Glass trinket sets
    • Cumbria England
    • My Glass Collection
Re: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2008, 12:20:20 AM »
Nah, that should read CIIIG!   ;D
Cheers! Anne, da tekniqual wizzerd
~ Glass Trinket Sets ~ GlassLinks ~ GlasSpeak ~ GlassGallery 
 ~  Glassoholic Blog ~ Glassoholic Gallery ~

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline KevinH

  • Global Moderator
  • Members
  • *
  • Posts: 6545
    • England
Re: CIIG signature? ID = Caithness seconds
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2008, 12:30:48 AM »
David - with your upside-down CIIG mark, the weight must therefore be worth much more as it will be more "unique" than other examples.

I think the statement by Caithness Glass about the marking, or not, of "seconds" is perhaps a bit of a generalisation and can be misleading to many people. It may be true that, from some undefined date, only unlimited weights not of good enough quality have not been marked on the base. But does that imply that rfom that same date, limited weights that were not up to scratch have always been destroyed? And anyway, I two examples of the same design weight ("Latticino", 1976), one of which has a CG cane in the base as the form of signing but the other does not, and yet the latter is not marked CIIG as a second! If I were new to collecting weights and was not aware of the particular design and when it was produced, I could assume that my weight-without-a-CG-cane must therefore be a fairly modern second item!
KevinH

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk
Visit the Glass Encyclopedia
link to glass encyclopedia
Visit the Online Glass Museum
link to glass museum


This website is provided by Angela Bowey, PO Box 113, Paihia 0247, New Zealand