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Offline Operaguy

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Webb England Coronation Glasses?
« on: January 25, 2008, 03:25:13 PM »
Does anyone have any information on this type of glass.  I have a few random pieces from my grandmother and can't seem to find any info on them.  I'd love any information and possibly a value.  Some have a few chips on the rim but could be resolved with a wheel I am sure.  The photo shows one type.  It is etched and the base is a beautiful canary yellow color.  I have what appears to be water goblets, juice?  cordial?  a few sizes anyway.  The seal on the back has Webb the a crown then England then Coronation.  Thanks in advance!


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Re: Webb England Coronation Glasses?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2008, 05:04:53 PM »
Photos are really needed as it is impossible to form a conclusion based on a description. Did you post one? It might be too large, in which case reduce its size to below 1000 pixels as the largest dimension (although 600 is usually more than adequate). Please also include a photo of the base and check whether there is any identifying mark.

Value will be whatever someone is willing to pay for it. Difficult to say, but the chips will devalue any item considerably - placing them on eBay is one determinator of price though.

The label would appear to indicate 1953 for the Queen's Coronation, but it could be George V (1936), or...

Sounds like Thomas Webb or possibly Webb Corbett.
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Pictures I hope...
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2008, 01:03:40 AM »
I hope this works this time.  Thanks for your help!
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Re: Webb England Coronation Glasses?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2008, 10:28:10 AM »
Thomas Webb, but the same logo was used from 1906 to 1966 in various forms.

Judging from the style of cut, it could have been produced from 1936 or 1953. The base could very well be uranium glass, and if so would glow vivid green under an ultra-violet torch. This might be an indication of it being produced before 1939, so quite possibly Edward VIII or George VI - all this needs confirming.
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Re: Webb England Coronation Glasses?
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2008, 11:02:33 AM »
OG & David — Something was nagging me about the crown from my stamp collecting days (long ago), so I looked it up.   What is on the Webb mark is the Tudor crown.   Queen Elizabeth (I will avoid her full title so as not to cause strife north of the border) was crowned with St. Edward's crown, which has a depressed top.   Why, I hear you ask, when all previous monarchs were crowned with the Tudor crown?   Apparently the change was made to mark the fact that Queen Elizabeth was not being crowned Empress of India, a title that her father lost in 1947 (also from 1948 you will notice that IND. IMP. is absent from our coinage).   St. Edward's crown was also considerably lighter than the Tudor crown, making it easier for the Queen to wear.

So the coronation being commemorated by your goblet has to be that of George VI on 12 May 1937.

... yet another example of a souvenir being produced with an incomplete or even missing inscription that was unnecessary at the time as everyone knew what it was for, but which has caused problems many years on.   See also the Greener pressed glass souvenirs that appear to celebrate a visit to Nova Scotia by the Marquis and Marchioness of Lorne in 1878, but which actually celebrated Princess Louise taking up residence in Canada, something obvious to everyone at the time.   There is an early engraved glass in one of the books that is now a complete mystery that also falls into this category, as possibly does the fort series of table centres by Molineaux & Webb, Rd. No. 29780.

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Re: Webb England Coronation Glasses?
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2008, 11:15:32 AM »
Thanks for the detailed confirmation – of course, I was being a little presumptious thinking Edward VIII ever had a coronation...

So there you have it: 1937, George VI coronation glass souvenir.
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Re: Webb England Coronation Glasses?
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2008, 02:11:39 PM »
Thank you so much!  Quite a lot of information.  All the best to you all!



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Re: Webb England Coronation Glasses?
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2008, 03:14:47 PM »
I figured I'd post more pictures in case anyone was interested in these or thought it was as interesting as me.  I had no idea that thy would commission an entire line of Crystal glasses for a Coronation.  I thought is was only pressed glass plates and such.  Knick knack things.  Anyone have a guess on the value of these?  I have 5 of the large goblets, 3 of the smaller stems, 4 of the larger non stemmed and one of the smallest.  13 pieces in all.  Thanks again!



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Re: Webb England Coronation Glasses?
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2008, 03:35:19 PM »
Not many people on GMB will give a value, partly because it's impossible to forecast. The best thing is to plonk them on eBay and see what they fetch. Then you know the value  ;)

I didn't realise you had so many, but I'd just drop them on eBay with a £14.99 start and see how it goes. They should easily sell at far more than that. Use the term "uranium" in the title - I'm positive the bases are such. Do they have a green tinge in strong daylight (or sunlight if you're lucky)?

Commemorative ware could take many forms, from the low-end touristy stuff to high end cut-glass, lead-crystal ware. Naturally, the common stuff is often seen, the high-end isn't.
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Re: Webb England Coronation Glasses?
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2008, 04:54:52 PM »
I was just thinking that David, the stems do look uranium.
Try useing a U.V light on them, and see if they glow.

 

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