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Offline ckscot

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Large Hanging-sided Pink Bowl
« on: February 16, 2008, 04:42:45 PM »
I bought this a couple of years ago thinking it might be Whitefriars, but it's not one of their colours.  So does anyone recognise this? It's about 27 cm (10.5") in diameter, 5 cm(2") high and 2 mm thick, in this glorious pink colour.  Has ground pontil.   Any info or suggestions appreciated.
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Re: Large Hanging-sided Pink Bowl
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2008, 08:02:38 AM »
Iain — I'm not really sure what I am looking at.   Any chance of photographs against backgrounds with more contrast?   You might try black, white, or clear blue sky, for example.

How about its weight, either absolutely, or, preferably, relative to something most of us know, like, say, a similarly sized Tom Hill 5-sided?

... and base wear?

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Re: Large Hanging-sided Pink Bowl
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2008, 10:51:14 AM »
Here are some more photos, hopefully clearer than before.  I'm not surprised that you're  not sure what you are looking at, it seems an odd piece to me, certainly odd to describe, to say it's "hanging sided" doesn't really work but language fails me......When I photograph it outdoors against the sky it looks like a pink alien spaceship but I'm not sure that will help anyone either!

As for weight, it's 1.2kg which is very slightly lighter than a Tom Hill 11.5" shallow ribbon-trailed bowl (1.3kg).  There is enough base wear to suggest age, as well as the odd scratch, it certainly doesn't feel or look like a new piece.  Hope that helps give you a fuller picture.
Iain


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Re: Large Hanging-sided Pink Bowl
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2008, 11:08:22 AM »
Another member of the mushroom bowl. club See here http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,18892.0.html and its associated links


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Re: Large Hanging-sided Pink Bowl
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2008, 11:22:38 AM »
Hi Iain Whitefriars did do a pink colour quite rare and not known by many,You can ask for more info on W/Fs.com or.org .


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Re: Large Hanging-sided Pink Bowl
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2008, 01:09:23 PM »
The mushroom bowl thread is very helpful thanks, I can also see that mushroom bowl sounds more useful as a description than hanging sided or alien spaceship.  I can see the resemblance with the others, the 'mushroom cap' especially, and I have seen some of these before, but mine is bigger and because of the way it opens out, it clearly hasn't been designed to hold posies unlike the others.
I'll try over on the W/F site as well to see what they say.
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Re: Large Hanging-sided Pink Bowl
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2008, 08:52:32 AM »
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... it clearly hasn't been designed to hold posies unlike the others. ...

Iain — not necessarily.   We know that Davidson sold their flower blocks separately to other glass houses, as, although evidence of this is scarce, we know that John Walsh Walsh bought them in for use in their bowls / vases, and Liberty's added them to some of their Monart bowls.   So they were, in effect, standard industry components, much like de-luxe epergne blocks, made by one specialist, but available to all.

So your mushroom posy could have been designed to take a flower block, probably a Davidson No. 8 semi-dome or a No. 1 round block, see here, and, if you want to see what a small world it is, mouseover the accompanying photographs.

... and I've been asked to explain "Tom Hill 5-sided".   It's a Whitefriars bowl, pattern 9090, and it's got five sides, unsurprisingly!   See here.

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Re: Large Hanging-sided Pink Bowl
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2008, 09:52:24 AM »
I also suspect quite large flowerheads on short stems would wedge quite nicely without any support. It must have been the fashion as there are dozens of posy designs with and without frogs, but for short stems, but how many short flowers are there?


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Re: Large Hanging-sided Pink Bowl
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2008, 12:56:23 PM »
Thanks for all that Bernard, looks like you have (have had?) quite a collection of frogs. I have a few posy bowls myself - Bagley, and Carlton ceramic ones mostly, but I'm not yet quite 100% convinced that my pink one is part of that club.  I can see that a frog would fit  but not too neatly, and my, admittedly limited, exposure to frogs suggests they are a bit too 'clumpy' for this bowl.  But I suppose that, covered in flowers the frog wouldn't be seen. 
And yes, large flowerheads would sit in it, but I would have expected a sharper edge delineating the side from the base to make that a comfortable wedge, if that makes sense. Certainly no sign of wear on the inside where a frog would have sat.

By the way Bernard, you sound like the very person to also explain why they are called frogs!!
Iain


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Re: Large Hanging-sided Pink Bowl
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2008, 01:43:09 PM »
Bernard will tell you they shouldn't be called  frogs...  ;D

 

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