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Hoping for help on signature
« on: July 21, 2005, 01:21:50 PM »
Hello. New to all these 'glass boards'.Very interesting indeed. This board is recommnded in another,parallel site, suggesting this might perhaps have a wider member base.

Therefore asking if anyone will go to the fossilfly Murano site and see a post by member Jo-Ann Burke on identifying a signature it would be wonderful as we also have a piece signed exactly the same. I KNOW it is Murano, because we bought it there in 1985. I have a receipt somewhere but not immediately where I thought it was!! It will turn up.

BUT it would assist myself and the other poster if someone has 'fingertip' knowledge of a signature which just has to be quite well known amongst at least the 'locals' and regular buyers/makers who buy in Venice/at Murano over the years.  When we bought our piece we were told the artist had studied with Dali at some stage.

Any help very much appreciated. Thankyou.


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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2005, 09:43:26 AM »
:D Not my posting!

:D A link to the site would have been useful!

http://forums.fossilfly.com

http://forums.fossilfly.com/showthread.php?t=75
Cheers, Sue (M)

All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth. Friedrich Nietzsche


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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2005, 10:04:07 AM »
:(  Yes I agree....and I do sincerely apologise for total ineptitude.
Have to confess to not knowing how to cut and paste or do the links to other sites.
Have promised self some personal space/time next year (as grandson will be 3 and half then) to go  'grab some granny growth time'. 80kms to nearest town. It has a TAFE offering occasional day or evening sessions

Otherwise...thankyou for doing the link AND really beg someone to turn up the info. if they possibly can. Appreciated by self and am sure by Jo-Ann.


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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2005, 11:15:41 AM »
:D:D:D  You're welcome! It took me a while to learn too! It was just lucky that I'd seen the link in another posting, so I knew where to go to get it. You don't cut and paste, it's copy and paste, using the edit bit on the toolbar. You can't copy from the page, but go to the site and copy from the address bit that starts:-   http://......
I'm sorry I can't help you with the glass though!  :(
Cheers, Sue (M)

All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth. Friedrich Nietzsche


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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2005, 04:34:45 PM »
Hi Jo-Ann,
I havent seen that signature before and I cant make it out either. Sorry :(
Hope someone can post some info on it.
Thanks for posting!
Javier
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2005, 01:47:41 AM »
Granny RosesLater, your sculpture sounds lovely.  Based upon the photo posted by Jo-Ann Burke on Fossilfly {thank you Sue!},
http://forums.fossilfly.com/showthread.php?t=75
I believe the artisan is Elio Raffaeli (1936- ).  His signature is shown on two pieces listed April 2005 by eBay Seller ‘baylisters’.  Click on the following links, and compare the cursive styles with the signature on your sculpture:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7313250293
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7313250311
{The photos were still posted the day of this message.  They are copyrighted.  In the event the pictures disappear, contact the seller via eBay Contact Member and request a set.}

Elio Raffaeli together with Roberto Cammozzo and Renzo Vianello founded ARS Murano S.r.l. in 1982.  Your purchase only three years later, in 1985, likely bolstered the bottom line of the fledgling company.

Brief biographies of the three founders are posted at ARS Murano, http://www.arsmurano.it/.
On the Dali connection.  While I found no reference at the web site to Salvador Dali, there was a phonetic connection.  At age fifteen [c. 1951], Elio Raffaeli was hired by the Seguso-Dalla Venezia glass furnace.  ‘Dalla’ pronounced quickly could sound like ‘Dali’.
On Jo-Ann Burke’s forty-year timeframe, mid-1960s. When the Seguso-Dalla Venezia glass furnace closed [c. 1957-58], Elio Raffaeli moved to Salviati.  In 1966 he was hired as a master at the newly formed factory Briati, and given a piazza.  Per the Glossary Section at http://www.artofvenice.com {applause!}, piazza “denotes a team forming one production unit being able to autonomously execute all working phases, which are necessary to manufacture an object. The ‘glass master’ is the one responsible for the entire team.”  The privilege of signature may have been permitted then, or at subsequent career stages.  One could conjecture and research further, but the gate is open to the Fast Track.

ARS Murano remains in business and the 69-year old artist remains active.  This is an enviable situation: both you and Jo-Ann Burke can ask the artisan himself!  Send an e-mail together with photos to ARS Murano S.r.l., ATTN Elio Raffaeli, at info@arsmurano.it, and request his assistance.  Perhaps you could update this thread when you learn more!

Cheerio!
Chaz
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2005, 08:42:24 AM »
Gnome said:  
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he was hired as a master at the newly formed factory Briati, and given a piazza


Four seasons or pepperoni?   :lol:  :roll:
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2005, 09:00:39 AM »
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Gnome said:  
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he was hired as a master at the newly formed factory Briati, and given a piazza


Four seasons or pepperoni?   :lol:  :roll:

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Raffaeli pieces. Big thankyou to GdeP
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2005, 05:48:17 AM »
:P Well thankyou so very much. Absence due to so many farm/family duties BUT what a lovely surprise now.
WHAT a fund of information so well put together. Am about to follow up your suggestions on links given etc.,
Will report back in due course. The additional history is so wonderful.


 

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