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Offline Glen

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Greener - Jobling
« on: March 17, 2008, 08:39:57 AM »
This is a slightly vague, searching question, so please forgive me if it is not very well thought through or is somewhat naive.

Is there any hard evidence that Sowerby bought old Greener moulds? Or did Jobling simply keep the moulds when the company name changed from Greener to Jobling?

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Re: Greener - Jobling
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2008, 10:19:16 AM »
Glen — Your either / or doesn't cover all possibilities, so your question is difficult to answer.

What happened, according to Baker & Crowe (sourcing from Baker's earlier PYREX — 60 Years of Design) and Thompson was:-

  • 1870 — James Angus died, so their Trimdon Street factory became Henry Greener, The Wear Flint Glass Works.
  • 1873 — Factory relocated to a larger site at Millfield.
  • 1882 — Greener died, and the company came close to bankruptcy.
  • 1885 — James Augustus Jobling, principal creditor, took over.
  • c. 1885 — name change to Greener & Co., The Wear Flint Glass Works.
  • 1921 — name change to James A. Jobling & Co. Ltd., The Wear Flint Glass Works.
  • c. 1928 — name change to James A. Jobling & Co. Ltd., Wear Glass Works.

Note that Greener & Co. probably acquired limited liability status before 1921.

Anyway, Glen, once the factory had set up at Millfield in 1873, it was one continuous operation until the recent closure — the 1921 and 1928 name changes were purely cosmetic.

Does that help?

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Re: Greener - Jobling
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2008, 10:50:30 AM »
Thanks Bernard - yes it does help. Thank you. It confirms my woolly thinking. I'm very grateful to you for your time and thoughts.
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Re: Greener - Jobling
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2008, 05:02:57 PM »
Quote from: Bernard C
... Note that Greener & Co. probably acquired limited liability status before 1921. ...

Minor correction — I had checked the Blue Book for information on this, but it does not reveal anything, as it refers to the company as simply Greener.

Glen — pleased to be of help, but I am intrigued as to what initiated your query.

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