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Offline deco.queen

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Could this be Argos?
« on: March 20, 2008, 03:00:06 PM »
I have been searching for my unknown pieces and I think maybe this one is the Argos pattern.  Could it be?
It has the rings on the bottom and the darts on the sides.  Nice silveroverlay on this piece.
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Re: Could this be Argos?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2008, 07:35:39 PM »
I was thinking this looked like the argos design by Schrotter that I found.
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Re: Could this be Argos?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2008, 07:46:07 PM »
Hi,
I'm sorry I have no record of such an item being part of the Argos range, as made by Inwald, and designed, as you rightly say, by Rudolf Schrotter.
Probably a similar item from another manufacturer, but again, I have nothing in my data-base for a Czech company.
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Re: Could this be Argos?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2008, 01:10:08 PM »
I am accumulating a long list of items which seem to be Argos, but do NOT appear in the documentation I have been able to access.
It's very easy to imagine that the pattern was copied by another factory. But I'd still like to try some detailed documentation by collecting and swapping information, i.e. a list of items which match Argos but not necessarily made by Sklo.

Here's my latest finds! :)
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Re: Could this be Argos?
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2008, 02:50:17 PM »
Jay,
Argos 2 is right, and Inwald, can't find Argos 1 or Argos 3, in the database....
Two problems I have with Janice's item are the handles... stylistically not right, and the repeated pattern.
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Re: Could this be Argos?
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2008, 03:18:10 PM »
Yes, I understand Marcus,
It does seem unlikely in isolation, the repeat pattern, but I think we have to consider that it was to hold a milk and sugar as shown below. The single circle design would then have looked rather odd! I enclose an image which includes (correct?!) the milk and sugar.

Argos 1 of my images would appear to be the underside of the butter dish. Not sure whether the ring motief was on the lid as well! (When will I find one!!!!??)

Argos 3 of mine DOES have the correct handle style so seems to be 'valid'?! (albeit uncatalogued)

(In one of my dreams I remember seeing a square version of this tray! )
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Re: Could this be Argos?
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2008, 03:39:06 PM »
Sorry I didn't add the measurements to mine!  It is 12 5/8" end to end, 6 1/2" wide, and 1 1/4" deep it is divided into 3 sections so it's a relish tray.

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Re: Could this be Argos?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2008, 09:45:48 PM »
I'm going to add this picture to the discussion.

A long tray clearly showing three repeats of the circle in order to accomodate the three items on the tray.

Sorry for being difficult Marcus, but do we really think that this is a TOTALLY different pattern? or are we talking 'later additions' to the catalogue listed items?

Amongst this weekend's treasure, three more Argos items including a divided oblong dish in fumi just like the basic form of the one shown at the beginning of this thread. Its handles seem to match the tray shown here?!
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Re: Could this be Argos?
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2008, 11:01:55 PM »
OK Jay,
your evidence is pretty convincing.....
The database obviously is not complete or infallible, but I do not do assumptions. Pedant I may be, but unless paper supports our assumptions, then rather than identification, we are guessing.....
Regards,
M
PS your set with one-handled cups follows what appears to be a catalogue habit, where one-handled bowls go with two-handled compotes... therefore almost certainly right....

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Re: Could this be Argos?
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2008, 11:12:05 PM »
Rummaging through a junk shop in Bern last week, I found a flint divided plate (like the Argos 5 pic) no handle, but with the right feel... plus a bunch of lookalike Argos plates and bowls - not quite as heavy as expected - all stamped "FRANCE" in very small letters.

 

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