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Author Topic: Champagne Glass ? ID = Clayton Mayers & Co.  (Read 434 times)

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Offline dinklepip

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Champagne Glass ? ID = Clayton Mayers & Co.
« on: March 29, 2008, 04:03:07 PM »
Another rather pretty piece I came across recently, am I right in thinking it is  1930's?  Would love to know who made it


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/cookiepops/champ3.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/cookiepops/champ1.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/cookiepops/champ2.jpg

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Re: Champagne Glass ?
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2008, 04:23:06 PM »
Hi Jen, am I right in reading the reg design no as 810374? If so, the design dates from between 26 Feb 1936 and 8 March 1936, but as the number isn't shown in the Glass Association's Blue Book of Registration Numbers 1908-1945 or on the Great Glass listing I can't tell you who it was registered by.  Someone else may recognise the design though.

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Re: Champagne Glass ?
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2008, 04:30:33 PM »
HI Anne, I checked out Great Glass site too and couldn't find exact number.  Yep correct number is 810370.  Crikey, I have such a collection now and so many pieces I need to ID lol

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Re: Champagne Glass ?
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2017, 11:54:39 AM »
Getting some photos of RD 810370 ready to add to the GMB RD database, but decided check on the GMB search facility first, and came up with this unresolved thread from 2008.

Can confirm that RD 810370 doen't appear in the 'Blue Book', but
http://cloudglass.com/ClaytonMayers.htm
shows that RD 810370 was registered by Clayton Mayers & Co. Ltd, North Circular Road, London, N1, on 29 February 1936.

This was Clayton Mayers final glass design registration.

Almost certainly manufactured by Davidson.

The photo links on the opening post no longer work, so I am attaching some photos direct to the GMB as permanent reference. They show champagne saucers and liqueur or sherry glasses, all with a machine-engraved pattern of swags and tails on the bowl (rather in the style of 'Pall Mall' glassware), a plain stem, and a plain circular foot. All are marked with the RD number (acid etched?) on the underside of the foot. The mark is slightly unusual in that it reads 'Regd. Design 810370' rather than the more common 'Rd. No. XXXXXX'.

Does anyone of photos of other glassware shapes from this design, please?

Fred.

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Re: Champagne Glass ? ID = Clayton Mayers & Co.
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2017, 06:49:54 PM »
mystery as to why so many of CM items should be missing from what we'd assume is the list of Board of Trade CLASS III Registrations. 
Of the twenty four which appear in the Stewart's list, it looks like only five are showing in the Blue Book.            I could be wrong, but it seems the total of twenty four should correctly be 25, since 719644 is shown in the Blue Book coupled with 719643  -  this makes the total which are in the Blue Book up to six.

Perhaps CM had a Registration agent working for them, and entry in the correct CLASS was a bit hit and miss.                    Presumably the Stewart's did their research at Kew, and were able to confirm those Nos. absent from the Blue to be in CLASS IV, but we can't be certain of this.

I'll have a look at Rd. 810370 when I visit Kew - either Thursday or Friday this week - and assuming this one is in CLASS IV then probably the others are too.


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Re: Champagne Glass ? ID = Clayton Mayers & Co.
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 03:49:15 PM »
Another CLASS IV Registration - whether deliberate or unintentional we'll probably never know, and in view of this it's likely the other Nos. mentioned by the Stewarts are also missing from the records for the same reason.         Whether CM agent was responsible for the classification or not we'll doubtless never know  -  I see also someone described the items against this Registration as a 'set' - as opposed to a suite.     The relevant description for each glass is underneath each shape.

Sorry the pix are a bit naff  -  the original factory images sent to the Board of Trade were in the form of photographs  -  those old fashioned glossy b. & w. things we used to get back from the chemist, and they're not always easy to photograph when there's acres of overhead strip lighting causing glare.
Two pix will go over to the next post  -  anyway hope of some interest, and as always sincere thanks to the Trustees and Directors at The National Archives at Kew for their help and continued permission for the GMB to use the archive information.

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Re: Champagne Glass ? ID = Clayton Mayers & Co.
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 03:50:15 PM »
the last two for Rd. 810370  .......

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Re: Champagne Glass ? ID = Clayton Mayers & Co.
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 04:30:16 PM »
Thank you very much, Paul - as always.

Query about the various shapes resolved too!

Fred.


 

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