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Author Topic: UNUSUAL ART GLASS GOBLETS HELP NEEDED.  (Read 7552 times)

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Offline Ivo

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Re: UNUSUAL ART GLASS GOBLETS HELP NEEDED.
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2008, 09:36:23 AM »
Last time I saw a swarm of Royo in a shop was in Toledo, but not anywhere else in Spain. The decoration style is Neo-Mudejar - which points at mainland. I have spoken to the sales manager of Lafiore some years ago who had never even heard of it, and he would have it it were Balearic.  Royo is thinly blown and thickly enameled with gold, meaning fired three times with very careful oven control - not something that matches the Gordiola style. For the rest it is a well kept secret, and has been for years.

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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2008, 06:47:54 PM »
Such secrecy about the source might be taken to imply made in China.  >:D

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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2008, 07:14:11 PM »
...NOT!

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Re: UNUSUAL ART GLASS GOBLETS HELP NEEDED.
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2008, 12:16:46 PM »
As you probably know i am a stubborn old bxgger,i still believe Royo=Gordiola,JP. :huh:

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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2008, 12:27:59 PM »
 :)

Ivo, if the Royo source is kept so hidden why is not possible that they are made outside of Spain to a specific design? The range is not cheap and this makes the anonymity of the actual producer all the more puzzling? It could also be that it is just a decorating firm, using non-Spanish blanks, based in Spain if they use "Made In..." marks/labels.

I agree that Gordiolo do not look like they are set up for such production.

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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2008, 02:10:58 PM »
Frank that is blatant speculation. You may have missed the first 10 years of this discussion, started when glass mythology believed Royo was a Moser brand. Well we sufficiently proved it is not - it is as Spanish as Rabo de Toro - see e.g. the porrĂ³n underneath. It does not get spanisher than that.  Please don't start another myth as it takes so long to rectify. 

http://www.todocoleccion.net/vinagrera-cristal-pintado-firmado-royo-s-xx~x8046075


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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2008, 02:40:01 PM »
Well i have just had a quick look at parts of the book,i think it was page 64 1936"another new feature was the decorating or enamelling of the glassware in the workshop adjoining the furnace. Display case 10 topaz with birds and flowers" i have several of these some marked Royo some not,i also have several other items identical to ones shown on other pages some are thin glass others are thick glass.I believe The author Gary Baldwin was one of those that said Royo was by Moser he later corrected this after being told by Moser that this was wrong.The book is fascinating reading, i am going back to it now.JP

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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2008, 06:44:19 PM »
Hi folks i am a very happy person tonight, for many years i have believed Royo was by the Mallorcan Gordiola Glassworks and not Moser,i had shelved my interest for the last few years but then up popped this thread by Ivo sparking it off again and BINGO- EUREKA.Today i have found a piece identical to a Royo Vase i own and the base is marked Gordiola Mallorca,i was also helped by Frank finding the Gordiola webbsite,do you want my autograph for your next book Ivo,or shall we just not tell the rest of the world.JP :chky: :chky: :chky:

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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2008, 06:50:11 PM »
Fabulous news, can you manage to get some photographic substance? 
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2008, 06:56:21 PM »
Yes but it may take a couple of days, to me its like i have just discovered penicillin.

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