Topic: peppa and salt

[Ivo]

Does anyone recognise a pepper n salt? There is a little rubber stopper underneath marked

SUBA-SEAL
PAT NO.469982   31

Not sure if it refers to UK or US patent....

[Lustrousstone]

Probably UK, number doesn't seem right for US. Too old to check via online DB. Suba-Seal the trademark seems to belong to William Freeman Ltd of Barnsley, Yorkshire,

"Class 21:Small domestic utensils and containers (not of precious metal or coated therewith); kneeling pads for domestic use; draining boards and hot water bottles."

There are other rubber applications, mostly by the same company. First filled as a trademark in 1966 and still current

[Anne]

US pat no 469982 refers to a buckle (filed 1891) so not that, Ivo. 

Incidentally, has anyone else found this yet? Google patent search http://www.google.com/patents seems to be mainly US patents at the moment and still in beta, but could be useful.

[Bernard C]

... Suba-Seal the trademark seems to belong to William Freeman Ltd of Barnsley, Yorkshire,

"Class 21:Small domestic utensils and containers (not of precious metal or coated therewith); kneeling pads for domestic use; draining boards and hot water bottles."

There are other rubber applications, mostly by the same company. First filed as a trademark in 1966 and still current.

A Barnsley glassworks, perhaps?   Unfortunately the finish is not what you would expect from a Barnsley manufactory.   Looks to me possibly early Habitat (founded by Terence Conran in 1964, specialising in simple uncluttered design with a very tight control on costs).

Bernard C. 

[Lustrousstone]

Probably assembled and packed in the UK. I recall having a wooden S+P with a Suba-seal seal in the late 1970s. I reckon you are looking at 1970s possibly 1980s. I suspect the seal is a red herring re place of glass origin.

You can search both the UK and US government patent and trademark bases, but only as far back as they are digitised. When I was abstracting patents in the 1980s the US ones were all in the 1,000,000s

[Frank]

Glass-Study is including all Class 56 patent abstracts from 1855-1900.

[Lustrousstone]

which won't be much use for little rubber seals. Much better than the plastic ones that superseded them. I reckon Ivo's S+P dates to between about 1965 and 1985, purely on the basis of the seal

[Ivo]

One is in reasonable nick, the other is brown and crumbly so probably toward the earlier years. And the design leans on Wirkkala, so sixties would be feasible.

@ Bernard: unsure of how to read you ; what finish would you expect from a Barnsley glassworks - top or crap?

[Bernard C]

... the other is brown and crumbly ...

Salt corrosion.

... Bernard: unsure of how to read you ; what finish would you expect from a Barnsley glassworks - top or crap?

Top.

Bernard C.