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Etchmark help:
« on: April 11, 2008, 09:41:59 AM »
Can anybody tip me off about this etchmark on a (quite undistinguished) round cut-crystal bowl?
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Re: Etchmark help:
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2008, 11:26:35 AM »
I can see nothing in Hartmann close to this, it looks more sandblasted than etched. so latter half 20th C is probable.

Someone might recognise the bowl if not the mark.
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Re: Etchmark help:
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2008, 01:34:51 PM »
I think it is an incompleted Dartington mark.


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Re: Etchmark help:
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2008, 02:40:51 PM »
Complete Dartington mark here for comparison:    http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-29


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Re: Etchmark help:
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2008, 02:44:07 PM »
I'd actually discounted this possibility because all the recorded marks seem to have a break in the outline, whereas there is clearly no break in the etch mark.

Is there a more recent mark with a continuous outline? (then it would seem more possible)
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Re: Etchmark help:
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2008, 03:58:50 PM »
I'd say it is a Riedel mark with issues.
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Re: Etchmark help:
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2008, 06:13:30 PM »
Ok so I've spent an hour looking...

The only mark for Riedel I can find is in your book Ivo, and it bears no resemblance to this in any way.

Please explain!
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Re: Etchmark help:
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2008, 08:03:44 PM »
Hartmann has several marks but nothing like this, but then it is to modern for that. I had wondered due to the similarity with CG's seconds mark if it was a G with a seconds mark. Riedel used sandblasting since 1960 but would they sell seconds and a G rather then CJR? I thought they only do stems now.
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Re: Etchmark help:
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2008, 08:29:25 PM »
Riedel varies from year to year; on principle it is CR or JR with 1, 2, 3 0r 4 strokes around it, the location indicates the year.
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Re: Etchmark help:
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2008, 05:37:49 AM »
Ahhhh Ivo, a light bulb just came on... is this a Riedel mark?    http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2914

 

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