No-one likes general adverts, and ours hadn't been updated for ages, so we're having a clear-out and a change round to make the new ones useful to you. These new adverts bring in a small amount to help pay for the board and keep it free for you to use, so please do use them whenever you can, Let our links help you find great books on glass or a new piece for your collection. Thank you for supporting the Board.

Author Topic: Mystery vase black/ameythst glass Etched cherubs and griffons  (Read 1485 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.


Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline krsilber

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 1019
  • Gender: Female
Re: Mystery vase black/ameythst glass Etched cherubs and griffons
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2008, 12:32:03 AM »
Very interesting!  It's new to me, too.
Kristi


"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science."

- Albert Einstein

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com



Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline azelismia

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 326
    • The Gilded Curio; a personal collection
Re: Mystery vase black/ameythst glass Etched cherubs and griffons
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2008, 04:44:03 AM »
there are some similarities. it's definitely a direction to look in. Thanks :)

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline Mike M

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 460
  • Gender: Male
    • http://www.manddmoir.com
Re: Mystery vase black/ameythst glass Etched cherubs and griffons
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2008, 02:29:07 PM »
It looks to me to be a Moser oroplastique 'look-a-like'

many many companies copied Moser when they came out with their oroplastique glass

If I had to guess I'd say Goldberg 


cheers

Mike

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline krsilber

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 1019
  • Gender: Female
Re: Mystery vase black/ameythst glass Etched cherubs and griffons
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2008, 07:26:40 PM »
There does seem to be some similarity with the Boom work, but the style on this seems pretty distinctive.  To me it looks more nationalistic or like a coat of arms or something than cupid-like.  Is the face on the wings really frowning, or is that a trick of the light?

To me it doesn't look like a Moser-type oroplastique decoration.  The relief areas within the design aren't gilt, and it appears to drawn by hand rather than with a stencil.

I saw something Hungarian yesterday that reminded me a lot of this piece.  Not that this is Hungarian, but to me it looks like it has some eastern or Islamic influence.  Russian maybe?
Kristi


"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science."

- Albert Einstein

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline azelismia

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 326
    • The Gilded Curio; a personal collection
Re: Mystery vase black/ameythst glass Etched cherubs and griffons
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2008, 10:08:21 PM »
yup, the critter really is frowning and it definitely looks hand done. not by stencil. to me it looks like 18th or 19th century grave stone motif. for some reason I keep thinking it looks french. that's just a total gut feeling though. not based on anything really.

http://members.aol.com/TombView/rubbings.html

http://www.pagstones.com/pgs_bloom_hrt_vase_sym.page.html

it looks like the symbol I am thinking of is related to the pennsylvanian germans. So perhaps this vase is germanic..

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline azelismia

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 326
    • The Gilded Curio; a personal collection
Re: Mystery vase black/ameythst glass Etched cherubs and griffons
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2008, 07:22:50 AM »
OOps, I thought the second link was going to a general definition of symbols page

here is the definition with examples of cherubs.

http://www.pagstones.com/pgs_hillchurch_1.page.html#cherub2

the ones on teh bottom are similar stylistically.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk

Look for glass on ebay.co.uk  Look for glass on eBay.com (US)
Link to Glass Encyclopedia
Link to Glass Museum


This Website is provided by Angela Bowey, PO Box 113, Paihia 0247, New Zealand