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Offline Leni

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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2005, 11:18:35 AM »
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Yep! that's the one, Gareth!  Look how much prettier the mermaid is! :shock: :D  

And do I take it you are saying that neither version is shown in any of the Walther catalogues?   :shock:  

Where do we go from here, then?   :?

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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2005, 11:25:39 AM »
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Gareth, I don't look at the computer screen (although I have been known to use a magnifying glass on the screen  :roll: ). I have a hard copy - had them for some years.

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Aha.. :roll: ....Hadn't thought of that.... because I was going to mention the "magnifying" tool on Word....... thought it odd when you said said that.

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« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2005, 11:30:08 AM »
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Yep! that's the one, Gareth!  Look how much prettier the mermaid is! :shock: :D  

And do I take it you are saying that neither version is shown in any of the Walther catalogues?   :shock:  

Where do we go from here, then?   :?

Leni




Much better...particularly the base.... but neither in the catalogues....why do I get the feeling that the small powder bowl has some connection to Bagleys... didn't they do some marine inspired items..... not my area at all though so probably way off. :roll:
I suppose we go nowhere and remain speculative until someones comes along and says................


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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2005, 11:30:30 AM »
If we had to have a catalogue illustration of every single shape for every pattern before we allowed an attribution, then there would be a lot of "attributions" removed from the glass scene. As I said above, we can see a dresser tray and a covered jar in known catalogues (there were probably other catalogues, etc., but they are not yet known). No manufacturer of the size of Walther is going to have made a single jar and a single dresser tray in that pattern, and have it matched up with items produced by other makers when it was marketed.

The variation to the mermaids' arms could mean several things -
1. possibly there was more than one set in use at any one time (note 2 sticks to a single set would mean it was taking more use per single set)
2. possibly the mould suffered damage and was recut
3. possible one version was hard to get out of the mould so they recut
4. possibly the first version was damaged and when the set was made in the 1950s a new mould was cut for the sticks

Dresser sets known are in matching colours. It makes logical sense that all items in the set were made by the same maker. However, as we don't (yet) have an actual illustration of the sticks, you can simply say "probably Walther" for the sticks if you feel uncomfortable about going the whole way.

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« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2005, 02:53:48 PM »
Hi Tigerchips

If you have a look at one of the last postings from Glen on the thread
Ships from Bohemia... I think you will find your green boat on there.... plus some necessary info


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« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2005, 02:58:29 PM »
Oh MY gosh. Am I girly today or what? Beans for brains I think.....

I mentioned this thread for a link, at the start of the Ships from Bohemia topic, but I forgot to mention it on this thread. Thanks Gareth. Sigh....it takes a man to spot these things.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

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« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2005, 03:05:29 PM »
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Oh MY gosh. Am I girly today or what? Beans for brains I think.....

I mentioned this thread for a link, at the start of the Ships from Bohemia topic, but I forgot to mention it on this thread. Thanks Gareth. Sigh....it takes a man to spot these things.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

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 Not really Glen....as I'm sure you're well aware of by now we stumble over things and sometimes they just seem to settle in the right place... nothing nearly as subtle as intentional..... anyway girly is good for you


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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2005, 05:52:08 AM »
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ART-DECO-VINTAGE-VASELINE-GREEN-GLASS-FIGURE-MERMAIDS_W0QQitemZ7340908268QQcategoryZ64878QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Yep! that's the one, Gareth!  Look how much prettier the mermaid is! :shock: :D  

And do I take it you are saying that neither version is shown in any of the Walther catalogues?   :shock:  

Where do we go from here, then?   :?

Leni



I have had another look at this set on Ebay but not finding it easy due to the poor photographs..... however I do believe that the powder bowl with the lid is shown in the 1934 catalogue as part of the Nymphen range..... and further to what Glen was saying about catalogues not necessarily showing all of the pieces in all of the colours in all of the sizes scenario I would have to err on the sisd of agreeing that the c/sticks could well be from the same Walther range. If this is correct I do still find it a very strange ommission if trying to encourage people to but the set.


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