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Offline Cazza

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Hi there please can anyone id this paperweight for me
« on: May 22, 2008, 04:38:04 PM »
I think it could be Caithness but am not sure and if so does anyone know its name?
Thank you
Cazza


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Re: Hi there please can anyone id this paperweight for me
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2008, 04:59:54 PM »
That looks like a Caithness seconds mark to me


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Re: Hi there please can anyone id this paperweight for me
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2008, 06:28:01 PM »
Yup, says CIIG, i.e. Caithness Glass 2nd!


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Re: Hi there please can anyone id this paperweight for me
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2008, 04:54:14 AM »
Not so fast. Caithness seconds were acid-etched with CIIC in much sharper and clearer, almost machine precise lettering. This looks hand-scratched as if to make it seem as if it were Caithness. Now would would anyone fake a 2nd? Because that's the only Caithness sig the scammer ever saw. So that made him/her think CIIC was the primary Caithness stamp. Now perhaps Caithness did hand-sign its seconds, but if it did, I have never seen proof of that. It was always a factory-defined stamp, not unlike Baccarat's seal, contemporary St. Louis, D'Albret, etc.


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Re: Hi there please can anyone id this paperweight for me
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2008, 07:12:52 AM »
Hi there Rainbowgirl
It does look like a Caithness weight to me, and probably a second as i can see a flaw, although the overall weight is very nice.
Cazza


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Re: Hi there please can anyone id this paperweight for me
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2008, 08:45:31 AM »
Ive seen multiple obvious caithness weights hand etched with CIIG, the better ones which where hand signed seem to get this treatment when seconds.

Ian


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Re: Hi there please can anyone id this paperweight for me
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2008, 08:53:37 AM »
Can anyone recognise which Caithness design this would have been a second of?  (I'm sure there's a less grammatically clumsy way of putting that, but you know what I mean! ::) )
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Re: Hi there please can anyone id this paperweight for me
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2008, 11:27:30 AM »
I've just looked through 625 Caithness bubble paperweights and concluded a side view would be helpful. To me it now looks like even more like Caithness, possibly Moon Crystal


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Re: Hi there please can anyone id this paperweight for me
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2008, 01:57:31 PM »
Christine is right to ask for another view of the weight. In fact, it would be best to provide a side view (straight on) and an oblique view (at 45 degrees looking at the top and side). The Charlton Catalogue shows various views - and even then, the photos do not always provide good recognition of all the designs!

But I agree that this is very likely a Caithness weight and that the CIIG in script, rather than etched, is not a problem. As a second, there may be something in the end result that is not too far off the original intention or there may be something quite a long way off. And if something is quite a way off the original design, a "swirl and bubble" weight can, fom certain angles, look rather like many others!

Also, what's the size of the weight?
KevinH


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Re: Hi there please can anyone id this paperweight for me
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2008, 03:49:14 PM »
Bubbles and Abstract categories have gotten large! I need to subdivide them at some point, suggestions welcomed.

I have changed the browse view of bubbles so you get two across the page which speeds up searching.
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