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Offline bungie60

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Small blue posy vase with rim one side up the other down painted flowers similar to what i have seen on Bagley and Davidson products size 7 1/4" diameter 3" high, frog 7 holes 2 1/2" diameter 1 1/4" high, 5 little dimples base. Any help would me most appreciated and thanks in anticipation


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Found the answer bagley runcorn pattern design number 3218 in production from 1959/75 follow link

http://www.wakefieldmuseumcollections.org.uk/index.asp?page=item&filename=bagley.mdf&itemId=WAKGMP%20:%20P2001.369


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Maybe, except a photo from Pottery Gazette & Glass Trade Review in 1959 shows the rim upturned in four places on the 3218. See Bagley Glass, Bowey and Parsons p 89


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Don't know what to say now Christine could it be a later version or could the museum have got it wrong "confused". Hope you don't take it the wrong way i value all the help i have received so far from you and others thanks Mark


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Museums don't always have it right. It could be Bagley; it could that the design was modified and the same number was used (they did that!), but I wouldn't date yours or the museum's piece to any newer than early 1960s because of the floral trim. Why don't you contact the museum and ask them how they arrived at that attribution. I think Wakefield is one of the helpful museums.

It is also possible, I suppose, that it was made specially for Woolworths, or somewhere, by Bagley. And I have just realised that you have gilding. Gold-trimmed Bagley is uncommon, I was going to say I hadn't seen any, but I have seen a gold-trimmed Carnival fruit set (or part thereof).


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Quote from: Lustrousstone
...   I think Wakefield is one of the helpful museums.   ...

Pontefract Museum, one of the Wakefield Museums.   See here.   Only 1160 images to check!

BTW that floral transfer I'm sure is Bagley.   I can't lay my hands on a Bagley flower block at present — still clearing up after the builders — so what inscription, if any, is on the base of the block?

Bernard C.  8)
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Ignore my previous suggested attribution, I was wrong.   I've just been looking at its twin, same colour, tricorn rim, exactly the same transfers, worn gilding, in a local charity shop, and it's quite definitely Sowerby.   The block is the distinctive one you find in the small 2614 elephant bowl and many other Sowerby posy patterns.

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Sorry bit late replying but thanks for the info, so we can say its sowerby then must contact wakefield though as suggested.Once again thanks to all


 

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