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Offline cfosterk

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Re: Badge Weight Study - Ysart or not?
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2009, 12:37:07 AM »
The Canadians were based up near Perth in WW2 so its more plausible that most badge weights.

That said, any link to Paul Ysart is tenuous at best.....


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Re: Badge Weight Study - Ysart or not?
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2009, 03:52:33 PM »
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Here is another badge weight on eBay. I doubt it is 19th C - looks like it might have once been on a pedestal.

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Re: Badge Weight Study - Ysart or not?
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2010, 09:03:00 AM »
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Another badge weight - the background does not look 'Ysart' to me. Generic 'Belgian'?

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Re: Badge Weight Study - Ysart or not?
« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2011, 11:16:23 AM »
A new contender Frank Eisner see http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2287.msg239536.html#msg239536

Ray said to me "...as this weight has the same ground as most of the so called paul ysart army medal weights, could frank of made them as well ?"

As we know Eisner was involved with the military and did produce the Spitfire weight, it would not be unlikely that he also made badge weights. Both at Lemigton and Waterford. Coincidence of colours is easily ignored as likely to have been sourced from same suppliers. If anyone has known or suspected Eisner weights and some badge weights, could you compare please.
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Re: Badge Weight Study - Ysart or not?
« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2011, 12:40:35 PM »
I have three or four badge weights but this one is very unusual it is obviously a Vasart from the canes and the badge is the Arms of Perth, most Scottish badge weights are attributed to Paul but it seems other members of the family could also make them
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Re: Badge Weight Study - Ysart or not?
« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2011, 01:22:43 PM »
Here are two pictures of a Royal Engineers badge weight I have which is definitely Belgium and it is interesting to see from the side view how high the badge is set above the base
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Re: Badge Weight Study - Ysart or not?
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2011, 02:24:08 PM »
Ray said to me "...as this weight has the same ground as most of the so called paul ysart army medal weights, could frank of made them as well ?"

As we know Eisner was involved with the military and did produce the Spitfire weight, it would not be unlikely that he also made badge weights. Both at Lemigton and Waterford. Coincidence of colours is easily ignored as likely to have been sourced from same suppliers. If anyone has known or suspected Eisner weights and some badge weights, could you compare please.

Point 1 - the coloured chip ground in Ray's weight is not "the same ground" as in the so-called Paul Ysart badge weights as it is much more "chunky" than I have seen in other badge weights attrbuted to Paul Ysart.

Point 2 - there is currently no evidence, including that from Eisner family members, of Frank Eisner ever making a "badge weight". I hope that "eBay fever" does not take hold with a spate of "Eisner badge weights" suddenly becoming available!
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Re: Badge Weight Study - Ysart or not?
« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2011, 04:35:57 PM »
Hi Frank
 Are you including Button weights in with Badge weights ? Paul Ysart somehow encased hollow brass greatcoat buttons in paperweights, these are rarer so are seen less often that the badge weights.  Some I have seen have a large bbble under the button caused, I guess, when the heat caused it to rise during encapsulation. Picture of my one attached and you will note it has the Harlequin style bubbles too
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Re: Badge Weight Study - Ysart or not?
« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2011, 08:52:36 PM »
The 'button' weights might have something useful to say about the grounds he used for the genre... or not of course  :huh:
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Re: Badge Weight Study - Ysart or not?
« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2011, 09:12:24 PM »
i had 3 buttons weights around 3 yrs ago , and all 3 were sat on just white coloured chips
cheers Ray

 

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