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Author Topic: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?  (Read 3146 times)

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Offline christranslates

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Can anyone identify this, or point me in the right direction please  :huh: It's a tad under 22cm high with a rough cut top, seems quite old, another item from Uncle's collection ... Chris  :)
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Re: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2008, 06:42:13 PM »
Weird is the base flattish? Probably left unfinished to accommodate a metal fitting. Colouring seems familiar but grey cells failing.

Could be from a druggists range.
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Re: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 09:10:28 PM »
Here's a photo of the base which has a circular indentation, and a closer-up of the colour to boost your grey cells ... :D
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Re: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2008, 06:14:24 AM »
It was made in a two-part mould, you can see the diagonal seam. I have seen square bottles made in moulds like this, but with more top shaping.

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Re: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2008, 08:57:26 AM »
Hi Christine, you're right it was definitely made in a mould from the diagonal seam at the top, but the bottom semms to be one piece. how do they do that?  :huh: Chris
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Re: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2008, 09:26:30 AM »
Hi Chris,

I remember going to Ely Catheral and looking at the Stained Glass Collection there in 2004. In the window bays of the shop area for the collection there were large examples of vases identical in shape.

We were told when we enquired that the sides were cut out and used to provide glass for making sections of stained glass windows. Hence there was no need to finish the top as it would have become waste.

Naturally enough there are cylinder versions of these vases that would be cut top and bottom, then cut vertically and opened out by heating. These provided larger sections of glass. In other words, a small version of how sheet glass was once produced.

Two makers that come to mind are James Powell & Sons (Whitefriars), and Hartley Wood.

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Re: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2008, 10:00:18 AM »
Wow Nigel  :clap: I think you've got it ! It sounds a very complicated way of producing stained glass BUT it absolutely ties in with Uncle's (inherited) glass collection as he was a big fan of Whitefriars and Hartley Wood (I've got a Hartley Wood vase listed on eBay finishing tomorrow - hope I'm allowed to say that here  :huh: ).
Very many thanks for this and well done  :hiclp: :hiclp: that's great!
Chris
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Re: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2008, 12:07:17 PM »
Hartley Wood was the one it reminded me of.  :D It looks like it was made in a fairly standard type of bottle mould, so you can probably toss in any of the 100 or so UK bottle-makers too.

It seems an odd way to get stained glass materials when there were/are plenty of UK makers that would have done it the cylinder way and these days the makers of stained glass are fairly large scale. Powell would have been one of those, as would Chance, L&M, Pilkington and about 53 others in the UK alone.

Time frame 1900-60. Financial value low, desirability high  8)
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Re: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2008, 04:52:33 PM »
I suspect the sides opened out from a base plate.

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Re: can anyone identify this big blue streaky jar or vase please?
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2008, 04:56:19 PM »
There is a seam on the base, it is round.
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