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Offline Derek

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Re: Old English with etched mark
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2008, 07:23:13 AM »
Hi Frank

From the picture of the weight it doesn't look as if the "Made in England" was part of any other marking but a discrete etching - so given that it was time(money) consuming to add it, this would point to a date for the weight somewhere between 1921 and 1933/4

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Re: Old English with etched mark
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2008, 11:26:43 AM »
Hi Derek

I don't think the mark on the base points to that date range necessarily.  The piece may well have come via Canada - where there seems to have been a long running requirement to mark all imported Whitefriars pieces (see earlier comments in this thread).  Some of the canes in my weight match ones found in a couple of Whitefriars EIIR 1953 weights - though the canes could have hung around on the shelf for some time, I accept.

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Re: Old English with etched mark
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2008, 03:45:46 PM »
white friars canes are still being used today by a glassblower called ray annenberg he worked at the factory up untill it closed in 1980


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Re: Old English with etched mark
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2008, 05:05:51 PM »
Hi Layna

Here is a Ray Annenberg weight I own!



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Re: Old English with etched mark
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2008, 07:54:57 PM »
Hi all

I think we have all been put off the scent by the talk of the McKinley tariff act as that was a US act NOT a Canadian one !

Given that Canada was and remains a member of the Commonwealth I would be surprised if UK glass product was shipped to the US and then re-expored to Canada. It would surely have been exported direct.

There is little enough information available about the US Mc Kinley tariff Act but I can find nothing about similar import trade restriction acts in Canada.

By the early 1950's Whitefriars weights were generally very tidy - the etched one referred to here is far from tidy so I agree with Alan that if its a Whitefriars then it is no later than 1950/2.  Latest date if the weight is a Walsh Walsh is the same as they closed in 1951.

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Re: Old English with etched mark
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2008, 08:07:22 PM »

The sequence of events that I had imagined was that the weight was exported to Canada as a new item in the early 1950s (thus requiring a Made in England mark in line with Layna's first comment), and subsequently found its way to the USA (from where it is now being sold).

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Re: Old English with etched mark
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2008, 09:38:31 PM »
hi Alan i also own a ray annenberg weight just cant put a picture on yet was given to me pat hogan well we done a  swap as i had a vase he liked (pat hogan is the grandson of james hogan who worked at whitefriars in 30/40s) i think they are really nice well made weights i collect mainly strathearn and vasart.


 

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